According to the ted majority, Leeds are not "lucky" in the draw hence the thread

but clearly you have just disproved that

just ask any Wigan Cas Saints fans

When have the ted majority in here ever taken any notice of what I've proved or disproved? That's why they are ts

only the ts would take any notice of you..

Your tery in this instance is duly noted

Who just happen to be the exact three teams that have beaten Leeds at Headingley in the Challenge Cup during the SL Era within William's excellent piece of research, which should put this unlucky in the cup theory to bed but you can bet that it won't.

Did anybody actually used the word "unlucky" or have the usual misery morons made that up for their argument?

Thought so.

Whinge, Whine, Moan... Unlucky Leeds, Jammy Wigan... etc.

All i can recall seeing on these forums regards teams luck in the draw of late is people stating the fact that Wigan have had an easy run of it from right through last years campaign,including the final, and this one so far(and yes,under William eve's WBSLR rules Cas at home is easy.). Not their fault as thats how these random things go sometimes, but a fair observation nonetheless.

Aye, all true.

Any of those facts I posted incorrect?
Any use of the word bad luck/unlucky?

If posting stats on past draws is whining and bitching then what do you call your posts?

This is an interesting assertion by Peter Smith of the YEP last month.

On first glance, it implies that Leeds have been unfortunate in only having faced a lower division team just the once in their last 16 CC ties. However, it was impossible for them to draw lower division opposition in 7 out of their last 16 CC games for the simple reason there were no lower division teams left in the competition! In 4 other instances, the odds on facing lower division opposition were only ever marginal ranging from a 13%-28% range of possibility.

Since drawing Blackpool at home in the 5th Round in 2010...

1. =#0000FFQF 2010 - Drew Wigan(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
2. =#FF0000SF 2010 - Drew St Helens - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
3. CCF 2010 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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4. CC4 2011 - Drew Crusaders(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
5. =#0000FFCC5 2011 - Drew Harlequins(H) - 13% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
6. =#FF0000QF 2011 - Drew Hull(A) - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
7. SF 2011 - Drew Castleford - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
8. CCF 2011 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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9. CC4 2012 - Drew Wakefield(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
10. CC5 2012 - Drew Salford(A) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
11. =#0000FFQF 2012 - Drew Leigh(A) - 14% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).
12. =#FF0000SF 2012 - Drew Wigan - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
13. CCF 2012 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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14. CC4 2013 - Drew Castleford(H) - 58% chance of facing lower division opposition.
15. =#0000FFCC5 2013 - Drew Huddersfield(A) - 27% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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16. CC4 2014 - Drew Wakefield(A) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
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CC5 2014 - Drew St Helens(H) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
=#0000FFQF 2014 - Drew Leigh(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).

Oh.

Indeed.

1. the percentage my interest in this thread has dropped = 86.2

A steady run of 10 successive away draws for Leeds in the CC would even the "luck" side of things up, though I'd expect many to be apoplectic and up in arms after a run of say 3 or 4 in succession.

Lucky Wigan drawn at home 43% of the time during the SL era compared to Leeds piddling 60% of the time.

Pffft.

That's what Neymar cost Barcelona last year in Euromillions.

Waste of money if you ask me.

The lottery?....... they won Neymar in the lottery

And indeed it won't have escaped your notice that -

Punctuality on the railways reached 86.2% during November 2013.

The moving annual average is now at 90.5% -

...which gives me a slightly better chance of getting to Headingley on time on Friday.

British Rail had a more impressive punctuality record than that.

And their fares were a lot more reasonable.

Could you please excuse me as I'm about to register a whinge about Leeds poor fortune in CC draws. I've just been informed that the likelihood of Leeds drawing SL opposition in the CC round after next is pretty much nailed on AGAIN! It's so unfair.

Your knowledge of football as we saw the other day isnt upto much.

People like a moan. It's human nature to moan about random events beyond our control and if I corrected my wife everytime she decided to do something similar I would have been found as a bloody corpse many years ago.

On the other hand random events beyond our control (and our primitive attempt to make sense of them) would seem to be the basis that all religions are founded on, so maybe some accurate stats aren't such a bad thing.

Strong life.

Strong eveything.

He was actually making a point about HOME fixtures.

You're the second one to go for the "they're insulting us by looking past us" mock anger technique. It's rubbish just to let you know and won't make a difference to what happens on the pitch.