There's want to be's and actual class Newman and French.

Correct, at the moment we are a deeply flawed side. Didn’t expect to win without Austin , several players certainly not up to top 4 play off standard.
Biggest disappointment regarding Newman ,was French bumping him away to score . He is still a vey immature player it’s a challenge to the coaching staff to put him on the right path.

Give it a rest French has 4 years on newman who's spent a log time out injured, showing more nuts to come back from long term injury (twice) than the keyboard trojans calling him a wnker have. French also made a poor effort on newman in the first half.

The French try in the first have was down to positioning from Harry and the defence inside and outside him with them going backwards.

I think I prefer starting poor and finishing strong, instead of starting well and then dropping out of the game. Individual errors hurt both ways of playing though.

Wigan missed a lot of chances first half and we still let them back in the game easily. Our kicking game was basic and the forwards competed fairly well but our three-quarter line was rubbish. Tindall tried but isn't up to scratch, Olpherts looks like a mistake waiting to happen, MacDonald didn't really get involved for me, and that leaves one more who missed two tackles that led to tries and bombed the chance for a winning try.

Good call for the analysis on the first try Seth. Gannon didn’t look comfortable defending in that position, and it seemed to have a knock on effect on those around.

Seen as Christopher isn't on here I'm going to lay it on the line players not up to standard Sezer,Fusitua, Lisone, Olpherts,Mcdonald, Austin I don't understand he's average then world beater when he wants,huge decisions to be made in recruitment let's hope Smith bring in some quality people.

Though Newman bombed the try the game was lost when we went away from being direct. How much time do we want to give the kickers? Hopefully tindal goes to hull fc and we have a receipt for olpherts. Big decisions needed on recruitment

smith brought in 3 of them....
dress it up how you want. leaders, lack of quality whatever.
a selfish player cost us a place in the next round.
it all boils down to that. wish I'd been a fly on the wall in the changing room

Lisone added good impact today. Way down the list for criticism.

Hi.

Whoever he brings in you wont like them

Despite the loss it was an excellent cup tie. I enjoyed it. Wigan regrouped well and were very good in the second half - that needs to be acknowledged. Even though we lost momentum in the second half I always thought we'd get a chance to win the game. If Harry Newman wants to realise his talent and become a marquee/ International/ NRL standard player he has to learn from today's humbling. That pass had to go (as did the one in the first half) and it didn't. He's young yes, but he's old enough to do the basics of the game. His ego is getting in the way of his talent at the moment.

Though Newman bombed 6 points the team let in 18. Not fair to only critise him

he passes we win. didn't learn his lesson from the first half. he cost us the game

He scored the first one, that wad probably the issue.

If he was told about his mistake at half time by the coaching staff, as he should have been, then he should be dropped for ignoring the coaching staff.

Myler definitely told him he was in the wrong the first time, listen to and respect your teammates is another good lesson to learn.

Unfortunately for Harry that was the defining moment. Momentum shifts within games and good teams ( like Wigan) will always get on top of you at some point. The golden generation often got themselves in similar predicaments, but more often than not, at the moment of truth they were both ruthless and selfless. Harry needs to thank his lucky stars he's not having to face Peacock and Senior in the sheds. Big lesson for him today.

I’d also explain to the fans why we’re giving him a week to think about his mistakes, but then find reasons to give him credit in his first game back. #BeMoreTed…

Newman was also at fault for two of the Wigan tries with a poor attempt on French and then attempting the intercept instead of focusing on Wardle. Great talent but needs to get over his own ego and focus on his performances.

Fun game that was on a knife edge - could easily have gone Leeds' way.

Let's have some perspective too on a player who has not long since turned 23 and missed nearly 2 years through bad injuries. Hes much to learn to fulfill his potential no doubt but more a cause for concern is the recruitment needed to add more players with similar impact on a game.

Main thing is that he doesn't walk away thinking he had a good game. Hopefully he's sufficiently self aware to know that but if not, he needs putting straight.

I'd guarantee he can spot his own errors. We could use more players with his level of commitment and desire to win (accepting the mistakes that need improving)

Good game won by the better team on the day. Regarding Newman - he's demanding the ball and wants to be involved. As in any walk of life, if you're not making mistakes you're not trying. The important thing - again as in life itself- is that you learn from them.

You can put yourself in the frame to be shot at when you make mistakes or you can contribute little and hide from any judgement. Know what I'd prefer more of.

But without his great line break he’s not in a position to give the pass and nobody else looked like doing anything in that back line.

Agree he needed to pass - I thought Myler was too close/far forward but there was a Wigan defender near him too.

Myler did overrun it a bit too.