Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its funny to see the venom launched at Cockayne for expressing a pretty reasonable opinion (even if you disagree with it) and people using his previous misdemeanours as a stick to beat him with, but that venom was strangely missing when he actually committed those misdemeanours. Anyway JP joins in with the criticising of this ty idea that was pointed out as ty before it was even implemented. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... -8949917?1'" There was plenty of voices suggesting Cock-End's sentence didn't fit the crime given its brutality. He is the typical aggressive small man - life has a strange way of righting some unpunished wrongs

Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its funny to see the venom launched at Cockayne for expressing a pretty reasonable opinion (even if you disagree with it) and people using his previous misdemeanours as a stick to beat him with, but that venom was strangely missing when he actually committed those misdemeanours. Anyway JP joins in with the criticising of this ty idea that was pointed out as ty before it was even implemented. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... -8949917?1'" There was plenty of voices suggesting Cock-End's sentence didn't fit the crime given its brutality. He is the typical aggressive small man - life has a strange way of righting some unpunished wrongs

Without the harsh points penalty Salford would not even be in the middle 8s they accumulated sufficient wins in games played.

If kr had won more games in the season they wouldn't be in the middle 8s. Comments like yours always cut both ways.

The reality is this is the format. No good moaning about it at the point it bites you on the ass.

this is spot on. rovers have put themselves in this position. they have home advantage against a side that is self destructing and, frankly, shambolic. no matter how much peacock,cockayne or whoever cries and moans, they lose and it's 100% their own doing

Agree 100%. Every team has known the format from day 1 of the season. Not heard much from Salford interestingly. Wonder if KR are talking themselves into a fearful performance here?

The mentality should surely be that its a cup final a big event and a challenge not something to be scared of as KR seem to be giving out.

Certainly gonna be an interesting game.

So Mr Peacock wants promotion , but no relegation ? , he wants the league to expand , did he have this opinion when he was playing , when it could have resulted in a reduction in his and other players wages ?

Im not going to defend Cockayne as a man or what he did, I'm no fan of him either as a player or person. However i dont see the relevance to what he said.

The players complained about it before it was the format. As a group, they have never been in favour of it.

Wouldnt more teams competing for the limited quality players we have force their wages up not down

Not if the central funding was spread wider

Either way he no doubt had little interest in the wider game until it started to affect him personally , as his comments about Batleys funding suggests

Central funding has gone up, wages have gone down. The link you propose isnt there.

And even if it is because it affects him personally. It doesnt make him wrong.

If salford lose I can see the good doctor throwing the towel in.

[url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby-league/363813/League-Leeds-veteran-Jamie-Peacock-in-favour-of-new-Super-League-structureLeeds veteran Jamie Peacock in favour of new Super League structure[/url

“It is good that we have got some kind of relegation back and an avenue for clubs who aspire to be in Super League”
Jamie Peacock, 2014

See above post , Jamie the hypocrit

its always going to be the same, players and fans complaining about the format when it's their side up sheeite creek.

same when a team finishes top but isn't crowned champions all the fans of top side want a return to the old format. Fact is all sides know the score before the season starts and there are enough chances to avoid being in this last chance saloon game.

Its a good game so far BTW, and a big crowd.

Good game in the first half. Salford looked like they were in danger of being blown away, but pulled themselves together and it's well poised for a tense second forty minutes.

Lunt looked amazing that first half.

Flip me! What a finish!

wow! rovers blew that big time. i'm sure they will moan but only themselves to blame

Peacock... <Guffaw>

Couldn't have happened to a nicer Tory voter.

Well like it or not, that was a great advert for the format!
I'm sure KR will have a different opinion

Would having a full 10 minutes of extra time hurt anyone? The NRL did the right thing this season abolishing golden point.

Why ?

And then what , another golden point ?

Gutted at that, hate golden point. But Hull KR and Campese to blame for that loss. Easy to manage where they were. On the other thread always the talk of players from Super League not good enough for NRL. Here was a player from the NRL, an Aussie international, and State of origin. There is many better players than him in Super League, including Luke Gale, who apparently couldn't play in the NRL.

At least then both teams have a chance of getting hold of the ball.