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| Quote ="GCM1980"I said that very thing on the Wigan board, and probably on here somewhere as well. I was surprised that a Wigan fan should dispute the point.
Anyway, we were outnumbered in the semi and we'll most likely be outnumbered in the final. Nobody remembers who had the most fans...'"
I think what's also forgotten when talking about these things is the cost involved for our fans when compared to others. The volume of 'extra' games that our fans have to travel to compared with others is huge, and in a recession the squeeze is already on. The average cost for a season watching the Rhinos compared to that of nearly every other club in Superleague will be considerable.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I think what's also forgotten when talking about these things is the cost involved for our fans when compared to others. The volume of 'extra' games that our fans have to travel to compared with others is huge, and in a recession the squeeze is already on. The average cost for a season watching the Rhinos compared to that of nearly every other club in Superleague will be considerable.'"
It certainly adds up. I'm often found moaning about us qualifying for another final just when I was hoping to save some cash
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| whys that? one more game than warrington this season
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| Can anyone be bothered working out how many 'extra' games we've had over the last
8 years to say a team like Wakefield?
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| Can anyone be bothered working out how many 'extra' games we've had over the last
8 years to say a team like Wakefield?
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| unfair to compare to a side who never make the play offs. compare us to saints and it won't be a massive amount
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| Quote ="tad rhino"unfair to compare to a side who never make the play offs. compare us to saints and it won't be a massive amount'"
And look how empty their end of Old Trafford was.
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| Well just in the last 12 months, I make it that we'll have played 4 more games than Warrington.
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| Tickets as always purchased from the RFL. Personally so much easier
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| We booked our hotel straight after last year's final as we usually do but leave getting tickets until after the semis. If Leeds get through we'll sit behind the sticks in our 'allocated' stand but if they don't then we'll sit in the side stands.
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| Quote ="William Eve"This is undoubtedly correct to a degree but doesn't tell the whole tale. On both a conscious and subconscious level, there's a feeling of fatigue with the whole product - the lack of credible competitive opponents, the average and below average displays that are still good enough to secure wins on most occasions, the deep-down feeling that it only takes one good or one half decent performance all season to reach either of the finals on offer.
Reaching a final is a bit like one of those journeys where someone has over-indulged at an all-you-can-eat binge restaurant which specialises in serving up fast utility food. There's lots of quantity on offer but very little quality. Some of it tastes ok but a lot of it tastes crap and it's mostly salt and fat. After numerous servings you end up feeling underwhelmed, fatigued, sick and bloated and wished you'd never eaten there in the first place.'"
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Well just in the last 12 months, I make it that we'll have played 4 more games than Warrington.'"
All games that will have to have been paid for, not included within a season ticket and three cup finals with all the resultant expense.
Could easily be talking £200 a person for that little lot in the last 12 months, upwards of £600 for a family of four.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Can anyone be bothered working out how many 'extra' games we've had over the last
8 years to say a team like Wakefield?'"
2003-2011 seasons I work out the number of games in addition to regular SL rounds as:
Saints - 62 (incl 6 Grand Finals, 4 Cup Finals & 2 WCC's)
Leeds - 60 (including 6 Grand Finals, 4 Cup Finals & 4 WCC's)
Wigan - 57 (2 Grand Finals, 2 Cup Finals & 1 WCC)
Bradford - 38 (3 Grand Finals, 1 Cup Final & 2 WCC's)
Wire - 36 (2 Cup Finals)
Hull FC - 34 (1 Grand Final & 2 Cup Finals)
Wakefield - 21
I included Hull and Wakefield to give a sense of perspective between the "top" teams, the average and the bottom teams.
I'm sure tvoc will now come along and sh|t all over my rather amateurish (by comparison) parade.
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| Quote ="G1"All games that will have to have been paid for, not included within a season ticket and three cup finals with all the resultant expense.
Could easily be talking £200 a person for that little lot in the last 12 months, upwards of £600 for a family of four.'"
Exactly, which is why it is ridiculous for fans of other clubs to suggest we don't care anymore about our success and the fans not being bothered to support the club in showpiece finals and knock out games. I'd imagine a vast majority of our fans who chose not to attend is due to financial constraints, rather than simply not being bothered anymore as others seem to think. It is a fact that supporting the Rhinos will cost more than any other team, and we have to pick which 'extra' games we attend due to cost. Not that i'm complaining about having to do that though!
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| Quote ="Him"2003-2011 seasons I work out the number of games in addition to regular SL rounds as:
Saints - 62 (incl 6 Grand Finals, 4 Cup Finals & 2 WCC's)
Leeds - 60 (including 6 Grand Finals, 4 Cup Finals & 4 WCC's)
Wigan - 57 (2 Grand Finals, 2 Cup Finals & 1 WCC)
Bradford - 38 (3 Grand Finals, 1 Cup Final & 2 WCC's)
Wire - 36 (2 Cup Finals)
Hull FC - 34 (1 Grand Final & 2 Cup Finals)
Wakefield - 21
I included Hull and Wakefield to give a sense of perspective between the "top" teams, the average and the bottom teams.
I'm sure tvoc will now come along and sh|t all over my rather amateurish (by comparison) parade.'"
Cheers mate.
Interesting - so over the last 8 years we have played, on average 3.25 more games each year than Warrington.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"so over the last 8 years we have played, on average 3.25 more games each year than Warrington.'"
That's problem with getting to Grand Finals.
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| If its to much or an inconvenience i hear the bulls need fans. Moan if we dont get to finals and moan if we do.
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| Quote ="Him"
I'm sure tvoc will now come along and sh|t all over my rather amateurish (by comparison) parade.'"
No way Sir.
I have the Reg Rds + Play-Offs and WCC but would have to research the CC figures, so unusually I'm feeling a little constipated at present.
All I'll say is the Leeds figure of 60 checks out (33 - CC, 23 - PO, 4 - WCC) so good work.
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| Quote ="tvoc"No way Sir.
I have the Reg Rds + Play-Offs and WCC but would have to research the CC figures, so unusually I'm feeling a little constipated at present.
All I'll say is the Leeds figure of 60 checks out (33 - CC, 23 - PO, 4 - WCC) so good work.'"
High praise indeed.
By the way there was a Vulcan over York the other day, and I don't mean a bloke with pointy ears. Came over quite low, scared the bejesus out of me in my office, then banked to the left and buggered off. Was a cracking sight, especially when it turned.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"If its to much or an inconvenience i hear the bulls need fans. Moan if we dont get to finals and moan if we do.'"
I don't think anyone is complaining tad mate, it's just trying to gather an understanding as to why there more Leeds season ticket holders than Warrington but less CC final ticket sales.
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| Im reading grumpy old men. I love it and its rubbing off
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| Never bought a final ticket from Leeds. RFL all the way for me.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Im reading grumpy old men. I love it and its rubbing off'"
Can't really argue against that.
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| Quote ="Him" By the way there was a Vulcan over York the other day, and I don't mean a bloke with pointy ears. Came over quite low, scared the bejesus out of me in my office, then banked to the left and buggered off. Was a cracking sight, especially when it turned.'"
That wasn't =#FF0000a Vulcan it was =#FF0000the Vulcan. If when you say 'the other day' you mean three weeks ago today that was her first flight after the fitting of two new engines. She flew an airtest and practise display sortie to Church Fenton before doing a few circuits at Elvington and back to base at Finningley (Robin Hood Airport)
Appreciate and savour it while you can. Plans are being developed for her post second flying life and I suspect the end is relatively near. End of this year or next.
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| I hope my mate has bought the tickets from the club,I have booked my flight its cost enough flying in August.I also hope we are at the front of the queue for the coaches from HQ we got on 2nd from last in 2010 and didnt have much time before KO when we got there
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