Indeed.

Im shocked.

Quote ="tvoc"The BBC have the story up now. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 632931.stm "[iAfter reviewing the video footage from the game it is clear that I made the wrong decision[/i" said Ganson. Well done Mr Ganson ...... better late than never.'" making amends for the MM try he gave us!

Quote ="tvoc"The BBC have the story up now. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 632931.stm "[iAfter reviewing the video footage from the game it is clear that I made the wrong decision[/i" said Ganson. Well done Mr Ganson ...... better late than never.'" making amends for the MM try he gave us!

"Perhaps in future you'd consider including which [idisputed try[/i you are referencing at least for my benefit if for nobody elses."

Although the defender was obstructed, it is doubtful whether he would have reached the attacking player and so I guess that's why the try was given. Didn't really see it at the match but reviewing on Sky+ shows it. As for the Cas try ruled out you may well be right.

We all get angry at individual decisions, but in the end it mostly evens out.

I'll try to if I'm making a serious point.

Anyone who clicked the link provided would have surely realised this was not one such occasion.

Really?

The obstruction clearly stopped the Cas player doing his job and helped yopu lot create the movement to score

Any player ahead of the ball and/or ball-carrier interfering with the defensive line should be an automatic penalty ...... shouldn't it? His job is to run an angle that holds the defensive drift (avoiding contact) not barrell into players and sit them on their a[irse[/is, creating a gap or preventing a defender tackling his designated man.

Occasionally a defender will make a bad read/take the easy option and instigate the contact looking to draw the penalty but more often than not they are staying in line following the ball.

A nice side step

Just had another look. If the obstructed Cas player had not been obstructed, he would have been blocked by one of the other Cas players who was trying (but failed) to tackle Carmont. Therefore he would not have got to Carmont.

Have another look at it.

That's certainly the theory, but whether a dummy runner can always guarantee a completely clear path through the defensive line is questionable. At the end of the day it's probably best to let the VR decide whether the obstruction really did contribute to the try. Doesn't help at non-televised matches though!

Quote ="tvoc"The BBC have the story up now. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 632931.stm "[iAfter reviewing the video footage from the game it is clear that I made the wrong decision[/i" said Ganson. Well done Mr Ganson ...... better late than never.'" Heard the interview on Radio Manc last night. Interestingly he said [i"If it had gone between the posts it would have been a valid drop goal"[/i. Although that may be true, it is highly unlikely it would have gone between the posts from the position Danny was in, and the direction he kicked it!!! Surely the fact that Danny was [inot [/igoing for a drop goal has some influence on the decision?

Quote ="tvoc"The BBC have the story up now. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 632931.stm "[iAfter reviewing the video footage from the game it is clear that I made the wrong decision[/i" said Ganson. Well done Mr Ganson ...... better late than never.'" Heard the interview on Radio Manc last night. Interestingly he said [i"If it had gone between the posts it would have been a valid drop goal"[/i. Although that may be true, it is highly unlikely it would have gone between the posts from the position Danny was in, and the direction he kicked it!!! Surely the fact that Danny was [inot [/igoing for a drop goal has some influence on the decision?

Not at all.

Drop Kick <> Drop Goal.

You have to drop kick a drop goal but you don't have to kick a drop goal to do a drop kick........

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That made sense in my head. Sorry.

It makes sense OK, but seems a particularly strange thing for Danny to be doing at that point in the game!

Does it mean if a plyer drops the ball accidentally all he needs to do a stretch out and boot it

From my point of view (that is Sky's coverage) there was not sufficient seperation of ball to intended foot at the precise point the ball hit terra-firma for it to be clearly ruled a knock-on. It's even arguable from the footage that the toe of McGuire's right boot was in simultaneous contact at that precise point.

My argument though would be along the lines of taking two minutes to decide implies it to be an incredible tight call and given we have the benefit of doubt going to the attacking team available to the video official, Leeds were unfortunate not to get the decision. The game was then potentially robbed of an even more exciting finish given there were still four minutes to play and any of three results still possible.

Having seen Wigan go all out at Headingley earlier in the season this one rather fizzled out by comparison.

Aye, another of Buderus's late game brain farts saw to that.

Careful how you tread. Ben Cross was signed on the back of Buderus' seal of approval. That worked.

Makes this theory about Buderus being an uber coach just by being along side McShane in training questionable if that is his judgment.

To be fair it was probably one big freudian slip. Buderus was probably waxing lyrical over the job Cross did laying his decking in his garden or something.

I though it was Bailey who enjoyed a bit of decking (and his father)?

And quite a bit of laying too by all accounts.

Notice your Ozzie bum is still a bum. Worried yet?

I might be next time we meet Wigan!

While you appear to choose to see most things negative surrounding the club through Buderus' presence, I'm slightly more concerned at the judgement to sign a player only to bin him off after allowing barely enough time for him and his family to settle in his new surroundings on the other side of the planet while at the same time praising his qualities as a person and a model professional.

So Cross won't be sorted with a club this season then? Bum.

Like I keep telling you he will be playing for Champions Wigan the league leaders under a coach who knows all about him and who rates him.

Now seeing as you mentioned bums; Bailey didn't like the garlic much last Friday did he? and.....
.... has he sorted out a club for next year yet? He could always go see if Andy Hay wants an extra benchman!