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| I think Peacock will have actually benefitted in some ways from the enforced rest. As long as the knee has recovered reasonably well I think we should get a guy back who can do the business.
McGuire, I'm not so sure about. It's not his out and out pace that does the damage, it's his willingness to aways be ready to get involved and his mental awareness of the game. His timing and workrate (on and off the ball) was phenomenal. When you aren't fit that's more difficult to maintain.
Fingers crossed though, we could do with a bit of luck.
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| Quote ="DHM"I think Peacock will have actually benefitted in some ways from the enforced rest. As long as the knee has recovered reasonably well I think we should get a guy back who can do the business.
McGuire, I'm not so sure about. It's not his out and out pace that does the damage, it's his willingness to aways be ready to get involved and his mental awareness of the game. His timing and workrate (on and off the ball) was phenomenal. When you aren't fit that's more difficult to maintain.
Fingers crossed though, we could do with a bit of luck.'"
Totally agree. JP would have benefited for the break. With JP its all about his ability to hit the lines, he knows where to be and where to run - his knee won't stop that.
McGuire is the one who we should be worried about. Like JP he has natural talent stored upstairs but in order to use them he relys on explosive darts of pace and acute reflexes, these might not come back. He is not a Stacey Jones, Matt Orford and to some extent a Briers type player just yet, he is not the little general that the older half backs have to adapt to been in order to carry on playing at the top level - McGuires work is purely step and pace.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You Pedant.
How many tries has he scored in appearances against Cas?'"
Danny McGuire - Total 190 Tries For Leeds:
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London/Harlequins 27
Castleford 19
Wigan 17
Catalans 16
St Helens 16
Bradford 15
Wakefield 15
Warrington 13
Huddersfield 11
Salford 10
Hull 9
Widnes 7
Leigh 4
Hull KR 3
Toulouse 2
Canterbury 1
Celtic/Crusaders 2
Manly 1
Melbourne 1
Rochdale 1[/code
Flat-track bully
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| Yeah that Rochdale defence is a real bitch isn't it...
17 tries against Wigan and 16 against St Helens is impressive.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Danny McGuire - Total 190 Tries For Leeds:
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London/Harlequins 27
Castleford 19
Wigan 17
Catalans 16
St Helens 16
Bradford 15
Wakefield 15
Warrington 13
Huddersfield 11
Salford 10
Hull 9
Widnes 7
Leigh 4
Hull KR 3
Toulouse 2
Canterbury 1
Celtic 1
Crusaders 1
Manly 1
Melbourne 1
Rochdale 1[/code
Flat-track bully
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How many appearances did he make against those teams?
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| According to the worlds top surgeon you come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.
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| Quote ="Man of steel 07"According to the worlds top surgeon you come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.'"
Cracking!! I might go damage my ligament, then when it's healed I can fight crime.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Totally agree. JP would have benefited for the break. With JP its all about his ability to hit the lines, he knows where to be and where to run - his knee won't stop that.
McGuire is the one who we should be worried about. Like JP he has natural talent stored upstairs but in order to use them he relys on explosive darts of pace and acute reflexes, these might not come back. He is not a Stacey Jones, Matt Orford and to some extent a Briers type player just yet, he is not the little general that the older half backs have to adapt to been in order to carry on playing at the top level - McGuires work is purely step and pace.'"
Agree in principal, dont see Peacock as being a issue, but might be more worried for danny, Hopefully he will be fine and eventually get back to his best. I personally think that even if he loses pace, step etc.. which i dont think will happen, he is a smart enough player to addapt his game and still be a important player for us.
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| Quote ="Man of steel 07"According to the worlds top surgeon you come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.'"
Certainly seems to be the case with Watkins.
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| Quote ="Man of steel 07"According to the worlds top surgeon you come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.'"
Got any directly attiributed quotes to back that up?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Got any directly attiributed quotes to back that up?'"
Quote ="World's Top Surgeon"You come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.'"
Will that do?
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| Quote ="Man of steel 07"According to the worlds top surgeon you come back faster and stronger after ligament damage.'"
We should try nearly killing them in a spaceship accident, leaving them men barely alive. Coming back from that type of thing leaves you able to run at 60 miles an hour, have the strength of a bulldozer and supersonic eyesight in one eye.
The only drawback is the cost. Somewhere in the region of £3683241.25, I'm told.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"The only drawback is the cost. Somewhere in the region of £3683241.25, I'm told.'"
Like it.
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Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"How many appearances did he make against those teams?'"
Danny McGuire, Played 208 + 40, Tries 190, Goals 0, D Goals 2, Points 762
[codeSt Helens 25 + 6
Bradford 23 + 5
Wigan 22 + 5
London/Harlequins 17 + 3
Wakefield 17 + 2
Hull 14 + 6
Warrington 15 + 3
Castleford 13 + 1
Catalans 11 + 1
Huddersfield 10 + 2
Salford 10 + 2
Hull KR 10
Celtic/Crusaders 5
Widnes 4 + 1
Leigh 3
Halifax 1 + 2
Melbourne 2
Workington 2
Canterbury 1
Manly 1
Rochdale 1
Toulouse 1
Whitehaven 0 + 1[/code
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| Quote ="tvoc"Like it.
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Danny McGuire, Played 208 + 40, Tries 190, Goals 0, D Goals 2, Points 762
[codeSt Helens 25 + 6
Bradford 23 + 5
Wigan 22 + 5
London/Harlequins 17 + 3
Wakefield 17 + 2
Hull 14 + 6
Warrington 15 + 3
Castleford 13 + 1
Catalans 11 + 1
Huddersfield 10 + 2
Salford 10 + 2
Hull KR 10
Celtic/Crusaders 5
Widnes 4 + 1
Leigh 3
Halifax 1 + 2
Melbourne 2
Workington 2
Canterbury 1
Manly 1
Rochdale 1
Toulouse 1
Whitehaven 0 + 1[/code'"
So back to my original point, he has scored 19 trys in 13+1 appearances against Cas?
Told you, you were a pedant.
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| Is it pedantry to correct an incorrect statement?
Quote ="Gotcha"I'll be expecting McGuire to return for the Cas match, then score a hat full of tries against them, =#FF0000because he always scores agains Cas.
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If I were what you claim I am I'd have to point out it's tries not trys ..... but I'm not, so I won't.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Cracking!! I might go damage my ligament, then when it's healed I can fight crime.'"
Watch your neck though, definitely doesn't work on necks.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Is it pedantry to correct an incorrect statement?
If I were what you claim I am I'd have to point out it's tries not trys ..... but I'm not, so I won't.
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Alright pedant. So he scores 1.45 tries =#FF4040every game. But he did manage to go one without, so actually that ratio is higher.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Watch your neck though, definitely doesn't work on necks.'"
Duly noted.
I'll design my costume with extra neck support, and stay clear of horse riding.
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| Quote ="Gotcha" So he scores 1.45 tries =#FF4040every game. But he did manage to go one without, so actually that ratio is higher.
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No he doesn't, how can you score .45 of a try?
And in any case so what if he does score 1.45 on average V Castleford?
The incorrect part of your otherwise correct statement was highlighted in red.
End of, girlfriend.
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| Quote ="tvoc"No he doesn't, how can you score .45 of a try?
And in any case so what if he does score 1.45 on average V Castleford?
The incorrect part of your otherwise correct statement was highlighted in red.
End of, girlfriend.'"
Just for you tvoc, and only because it's you, I will rephrase it.
McGuire has an amazing try scoring record agains cas, and =#FF4000nearly always scores against them.
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| And by the way the 1.45 is incorrect as well.
Danny McGuire: Average number of Tries V Castleford
By Appearance - 1.357 (19/14)
By Start - 1.462 (19/13)
Exclude Non Scoring Appearance - 1.583 (19/12)
Now this does feel a little pedantic if I'm being entirely honest.
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That's better but isn't that more or less what you put in the first place.
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Alright pedant. So he scores 1.45 tries =#FF4040every game. But he did manage to go one without, so actually that ratio is higher.
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Oooh a pedantry fest - let me in
Actually the ratio of tries to games doesn't change just because he failed to score in one of them.
For that to work, you would have to change it to the ratio of tries to games [iin which he scores[/i.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"The only drawback is the cost. Somewhere in the region of £3683241.25, I'm told.'"
That was in 1974. You could by a house for 5 grand and it was 8p a pint for beer (not lager, lager hadn't been invented back then)
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