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| I think so. He's probably our most potent attacking weapon.
And it seems other teams fans are starting to wake up and realise Senior's glory.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"is signing for warrington'"
so thats sinny, danny, rob and now keith .........
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Anyone won thinks that Atkins could be a possible replacement for Senior needs to watch last nights game.
Young Atkins was made to look much the inferior against big Keef – granted he has the potential but as for a like-for-like replacement he’s way off the mark.'" Who is good enough to replace Senior?
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Who is good enough to replace Senior?'"
No-one as yet!
Just as when senior first joined many thought we'd bought a donkey not good enough to lace goddens boots.
Whoever eventually gets that 4 shirt has to be left alone to make their own mark on the team and judged on their own merits and efforts not keiths.
There is only one keith senior end of.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Who is good enough to replace Senior?'"
Israel Folau
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Israel Folau
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That would never happen though would it??
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| Quote ="rhinoms"That would never happen though would it??'"
We can live in hope though can we?
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"We can live in hope though can we?'"
We can but if he EVER left the NRL i think it'd be for union.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We can but if he EVER left the NRL i think it'd be for union.'"
Speaking of Union, did you see Sonny Bill turn out for the Barbarians a while back? Interesting performance - looked a very average centre still not sure how to play the game. I know there's money to be had but to go from being a superstar in one sport, top of your game and pretty much hero worshipped by the fans, to average squad player under constant scrutiny and criticism playing for a second division French team? On top of that being told to f*** off by the club you were contracted to (who were busting the bank to pay you as it was). I don't think I would be keen.
I wish Lee Smith best of luck, hope he doesn't do a "Chev".
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Speaking of Union, did you see Sonny Bill turn out for the Barbarians a while back? Interesting performance - looked a very average centre still not sure how to play the game. I know there's money to be had but to go from being a superstar in one sport, top of your game and pretty much hero worshipped by the fans, to average squad player under constant scrutiny and criticism playing for a second division French team? On top of that being told to f*** off by the club you were contracted to (who were busting the bank to pay you as it was). I don't think I would be keen.
I wish Lee Smith best of luck, hope he doesn't do a "Chev".'"
Sonny bill was always p#ssed on his own importance mate as soon as he changed agents!!
I've read that his chairman of the french team he plays for isn't too happy about the return on his investment either.........F#*K HIM!!
With regards smithy i think he could make a go of it in union but i doubt he'll ever play for england whereas if he'd stayed in League he'd be a regular international imo.
I wish smithy well but like chev i feel he's ditching a promising career for more money in a game he'll never play at the top level.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Sonny bill was always p#ssed on his own importance mate as soon as he changed agents!!
I've read that his chairman of the french team he plays for isn't too happy about the return on his investment either.........F#*K HIM!!
With regards smithy i think he could make a go of it in union but i doubt he'll ever play for england whereas if he'd stayed in League he'd be a regular international imo.
I wish smithy well but like chev i feel he's ditching a promising career for more money in a game he'll never play at the top level.'"
Smith actually looked like a centre on Friday. He defended well and I thought we missed a trick not attacking down the right more often as he looked very dangerous. I think it's a big shame he's going. I'm not sure where Wasps will want to play him, my guess is actually fullback, which might work for him.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Smith actually looked like a centre on Friday. He defended well and I thought we missed a trick not attacking down the right more often as he looked very dangerous. I think it's a big shame he's going. I'm not sure where Wasps will want to play him, my guess is actually fullback, which might work for him.'"
I was thinking the same thing mate i think he could make the 3 shirt/position his own but i guess that doesn't matter now.
Regards union i also agree mate FB or Wing his kicking game isn't that bad and from the FB he reads the game well in league and i could see the same in union.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Anyone won thinks that Atkins could be a possible replacement for Senior needs to watch last nights game.
Young Atkins was made to look much the inferior against big Keef – granted he has the potential but as for a like-for-like replacement he’s way off the mark.'" It is not Senior who needs replacing it is Smith.Atkins and Senior for next season would do for me.
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| Smith might need a couple of seasons as a winger to adjust to Union, and may well kick on from there, but I can't see his future as a full back in either codes.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"It is not Senior who needs replacing it is Smith.Atkins and Senior for next season would do for me.'"
Atinks for Smith would be like-for-like (ish) but where would that leave our home-grown youngsters (although IIRC Gibson is 22 now so maybe not quite so young).
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Who is good enough to replace Senior?'"
In SL, only Gleeson or Gidley, in my opinion we've got to look to the NRL to replace Senior.
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| but by this seasons performances he isnt finished yet
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Atinks for Smith would be like-for-like (ish) but where would that leave our home-grown youngsters (although IIRC Gibson is 22 now so maybe not quite so young).'" Watkins should be Senior long term replacement.
Still to be convinced on Gibson as a right centre but if his form warrants it then a 12 month extension should be given.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Smith might need a couple of seasons as a winger to adjust to Union, and may well kick on from there, but I can't see his future as a full back in either codes.'"
Might not need as much time to adjust as you think. I believe he played union as a junior at county level so already knows the game I'd think
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| Quote ="Rhinos Fan Pam"Might not need as much time to adjust as you think. I believe he played union as a junior at county level so already knows the game I'd think'" Indeed to a pretty decent level as well.
But that won't stop know nowts on this forum pushing their agenda against the lad. They're all clueless that he's already played the game (Union) to a decent standard.
And its' unbelievably harsh to criticise anybody who may or may not be Senior's replacement for not being up to Keith's standard because Keith remains the best British centre in the league and has been for ten plus years.
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| Quote ="G1"Indeed to a pretty decent level as well.
But that won't stop know nowts on this forum pushing their agenda against the lad. They're all clueless that he's already played the game (Union) to a decent standard.
And its' unbelievably harsh to criticise anybody who may or may not be Senior's replacement for not being up to Keith's standard because Keith remains the best British centre in the league and has been for ten plus years.'"
So do you think he'll play for england at union G????????
I honestly don't when you consider who's in front of him plus the u20's reached their WC final so there'll be juniors on the radar in front of him also.
I personally think he's making a mistake but wish the lad well.
P.s I forgot to say i agree 100% re-seniors possible replacement!
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| Physically he's a level above the current England options. The Lions selectors left out Delon Armitage despite him being about the fastest back in the 6 nations and went with two big, physical full backs. Armitage is potentially a great player but I see him moving to centre, Nick Abendanon is the only other contender and he makes too many mistakes for me.
Union is getting more and more physical, strong backs are in at the moment - Smiths strength could work well for him.
The fact that he'll have Sean Edwards as a coach is also a massive bonus. He should be able to get the best out of him. Hopefully the distraction of the Capital won't be too much for Lee.
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| Quote ="G1"Indeed to a pretty decent level as well.
But that won't stop know nowts on this forum pushing their agenda against the lad. They're all clueless that he's already played the game (Union) to a decent standard.
And its' unbelievably harsh to criticise anybody who may or may not be Senior's replacement for not being up to Keith's standard because Keith remains the best British centre in the league and has been for ten plus years.'"
I agree, I dont see what Rickey Flutey has that Smith doesn't. He will adapt to union no problem. I posted some time ago, that Smith from what I have been told is a genuine allround sportsman, and adapts to any sport, apprently he was a good cricketer.
Also agree on Watkins as Seniors replacement. He has another season now, so plenty of time for Watkins to prove himself.
However, we do need to replace Smith, and I dont think Watkins is yet the answer to that one.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Speaking of Union, did you see Sonny Bill turn out for the Barbarians a while back? Interesting performance - looked a very average centre still not sure how to play the game. I know there's money to be had but to go from being a superstar in one sport, top of your game and pretty much hero worshipped by the fans, to average squad player under constant scrutiny and criticism playing for a second division French team? On top of that being told to f*** off by the club you were contracted to (who were busting the bank to pay you as it was). I don't think I would be keen.
I wish Lee Smith best of luck, hope he doesn't do a "Chev".'"
Has he actually left Toulon? I heard rumours they were wanting to get shut, but I haven't heard that he actually left.
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