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| Quote ="thebloodbath"McGuire's kick out reaction was fair enough.
Abletts's immediate reaction as well tells the story of how he interpreted it.
Someone just needs to get it through to cod heads.
Sa talking about Fridays game as 'karma' no doubt brain dead Radford will be instilling that as a pump up to his players. but we know how that works out in his case.'"
In his post match interview he was asked about squad rotation,he said "we have 8 matches in 26 days (long pause) thats only an average 4 and a half days rest between matches" Good thinking lee,no flies on you,maybe if you get the sack you could be an accountant,priceless.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Sorry Tad but I beg to differ. Ablett took the ball and was always carrying it in his right hand. As he approached the line Shaul was converging so Ablett switched the ball to his left hand and fended off with his right. Shaul made an excellent job of turning Ablett as he was trying to fend off and he managed to pull him on top and stop him grounding. Good play from a promising fullback.
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I thought it was brilliant fullback play. He wrapped up the ball which so many fail to do. We've seen Zak do similar and issue high praise
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| It was very good fullback play, but you'd expect Ablett to score. And I think Ablett himself expected to score so made the mistake of not going low enough/putting in a half-hearted fend which he still thought would be enough.
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| Quote ="tigertot"If this sort of stuff only happens very occasionally there are reasons for that. The procedures are in place for dealing with events rationally. What if McGuire is only out for a week, a one week ban seems inappropriate?'"
In which case sneyd goes up in front of the panel and if guilty gets a 3-5 match ban.
Extreme bans would only be for extreme cases of severe premeditated nastiness. It would stamp it out within a month, guaranteed.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"It was very good fullback play, but you'd expect Ablett to score. And I think Ablett himself expected to score so made the mistake of not going low enough/putting in a half-hearted fend which he still thought would be enough.'"
looks like it was enough from the replays, and the in goal touch judge seems to have thought so too
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| Quote ="D4mo78"I thought it was brilliant fullback play. He wrapped up the ball which so many fail to do. We've seen Zak do similar and issue high praise'"
Now don't go poking the bears with sticks. You must know it's heresy to mention that there are other good fullbacks about. Look at the trouble I got in when I suggested ZH was a bit lacking in the FB attacking department. To hint that there are other FBs that might be quite good in defense is pushing your luck. I mean heaven forbid if I were to suggest that Zak might have missed tackling Hull try scorer Houghton or that he might, just might have been a bit casual in covering across for their first try, well I mean someone will have a fit. So best we just keep this between ourselves for now.
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| only 2 games for sneyd 3-5 games and ends up with 2, sounds bitter and predictable but RFL are a joke. moon got 1 game for nothing more that grabbing Charnleys ankle full on double crocodile roll and only one extra game. really hope him and hull Fc get their's over this. their fans been utterly despicable over this. a bit win Friday will do and them ending up in middle 8
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| Quote ="craigizzard"It was very good fullback play, but you'd expect Ablett to score. And I think Ablett himself expected to score so made the mistake of not going low enough/putting in a half-hearted fend which he still thought would be enough.'"
I agree. Ablett made the mistake of turning the top of his body side on as he made the fend and Shaul was able to wrap both arms around Ablett's arms and as they went down he got underneath so he was unable to ground the ball. You are right, Ablett should have kept square on to the line with the aim of diving over. But very good work from Shaul non the less.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"only 2 games for sneyd 3-5 games and ends up with 2, sounds bitter and predictable but RFL are a joke. moon got 1 game for nothing more that grabbing Charnleys ankle full on double crocodile roll and only one extra game. really hope him and hull Fc get their's over this. their fans been utterly despicable over this. a bit win Friday will do and them ending up in middle 8'"
Well we play Saints and Wigan just before the split. If the punishment is only 2 games then send on expendable players to injure Wigan and Saints key players.
Utterly pathetic from the RFL. They talk a good game but never follow through with their big talk about player welfare. A weak decision from a weak, shambolic and leaderless organisation.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"only 2 games for sneyd 3-5 games and ends up with 2, sounds bitter and predictable but RFL are a joke. moon got 1 game for nothing more that grabbing Charnleys ankle full on double crocodile roll and only one extra game. really hope him and hull Fc get their's over this. their fans been utterly despicable over this. a bit win Friday will do and them ending up in middle 8'"
A very clear msg sent by the rfl here, a kin to crime does pay.
Really poor decision and no concern for player safety.
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| Quote ="Him"Well we play Saints and Wigan just before the split. If the punishment is only 2 games then send on expendable players to injure Wigan and Saints key players.
Utterly pathetic from the RFL. They talk a good game but never follow through with their big talk about player welfare. A weak decision from a weak, shambolic and leaderless organisation.'"
indeed, could even do it Friday, they are already struggling for playmakers, get Yates to take out Houghton or shaul, take his ten mins in the bin (we would Barely notice) and 2 match ban go through to the next round
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| Quote ="Him"Well we play Saints and Wigan just before the split. If the punishment is only 2 games then send on expendable players to injure Wigan and Saints key players.
Utterly pathetic from the RFL. They talk a good game but never follow through with their big talk about player welfare. A weak decision from a weak, shambolic and leaderless organisation.'"
I am genuinely shellshocked.....look out for more despicable actions by many more players. It really does beggar belief. Spitting and name callling are obviously far worse than potential career ending gbh in the eyes of the RFL if not (yet) the law of the land.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"eusa_naughty.gif Now don't go poking the bears with sticks. You must know it's heresy to mention that there are other good fullbacks about. Look at the trouble I got in when I suggested ZH was a bit lacking in the FB attacking department. To hint that there are other FBs that might be quite good in defense is pushing your luck. I mean heaven forbid if I were to suggest that Zak might have missed tackling Hull try scorer Houghton or that he might, just might have been a bit casual in covering across for their first try, well I mean someone will have a fit. So best we just keep this between ourselves for now.
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I think it's probably more that you (and Sal) seem to expect that bit closer to perfection for this one guy over any other. Anything short of that expected perfection has to be highlighted above and beyond any other individual's failings.
Name me who you consider to be the 'complete and faultless' FB in SL....and indeed who you would prefer at FB for Leeds (and you cannot include BJB who is now long gone)
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| pathetic reply by some of you so called rugby fans, wishing your players to go out and injure,yes sneyd did wrong and no probs with the ban, but to say go out and injure a fellow rugby player on purpose, REALLY
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| Genuine question - Grade D offence carries a 3 to 5 match ban, so how does weasel Syned only cop for 2 games???
He's either guilty - 3 to 5 games ban or not guilty - 0 games ban.
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| Quote ="hull2524"pathetic reply by some of you so called rugby fans, wishing your players to go out and injure,yes sneyd did wrong and no probs with the ban, but to say go out and injure a fellow rugby player on purpose, REALLY'"
Come on....we all know all clubs have got their cerebrally challenged element amongst their ranks and others will make a statement in the heat of the moment.
Whoever you support we should all be condemning such 'tackles' and even more so the leniency of the ridiculous RFL who cannot even follow their own goddamn rules.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"https://audioboom.com/boos/3304979-rlonry-with-referee-robert-hicks#t=17m35s
Hicks version of events, skip to the 18:00 minute mark
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"Danny McGuire had been in my ear so I had an agenda against him when it came to making the decision. Looks like I've been found out due to the uproar over his subsequent injury, but I'm untouchable so who cares. How long will I carry on with my agenda against McGuire, who knows, he will be out for a while so it doesn't apply. Will I judge a decision in future based on what has happened rather than the players involved, probably not, as I've said already I'm untouchable."
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| Quote ="hull2524"pathetic reply by some of you so called rugby fans, wishing your players to go out and injure,yes sneyd did wrong and no probs with the ban, but to say go out and injure a fellow rugby player on purpose, REALLY'"
Danny Houghton let himself down big time on Sunday. To see a pro player shoving and berating a fellow pro who is lying injured on the floor was sickening. I don't wish any bad injuries on Houghton but would not feel any pity should one occur. Houghton used to be one of my favourite players in Superleague but only he knows why he did what he did on Sunday.
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| Quote ="hull2524"pathetic reply by some of you so called rugby fans, wishing your players to go out and injure,yes sneyd did wrong and no probs with the ban, but to say go out and injure a fellow rugby player on purpose, REALLY'"
Think you'll find it's just trying to highlight the rubbish decision being made by the disciplinary to an act of foul play that could've have serious consequences that why not make it open season if people aren't getting properly punished for their crimes.
I seriously doubt any of them are sat watching on Friday with their fingers crossed actually praying for a Hull guy to get hurt.
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| A very surprising penalty to say the least. It was a very nasty tackle and to only ban Sneyd for 2 games sends out a strange and contradictory message. It would appear that who you are and who you play for on either end of the tackle may have some influence on the penalty awarded by the muppets on the disciplinary panel. If that tackle had been made by a certain Salford player I feel fairly confident that the resulting ban would not have been 2 games. I don't want the lad hung out to dry and I deplore the daft chat about sending junior squad members out to take out opposing players, though I don't think either poster was actually advocating such tactics. Rather I suspect that they were pointing out how a cynical coach might seek advantage out of this bizarre ruling. But I do think that the penalty awarded to Sneyd and Hull is too lenient and brings the game into disrepute.
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| I am awaiting Phil Clarke's view on this incident before my mind is made up regarding the incident as i believe that he will deem that such a serious and intentional incident will certainly awaken the Rugby Gods and that they will ultimately have the final say on this matter regarding the true severity of sneyd's actions,even if the RL Disciplinary committee deemed this incident as being not too serious
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| Open question:
Do people think sneyds offence was worse than what flower did to hohiah in the gf?
Personally I would say punching a defenceless opponent and twisting the limb of a defenceless opponent are very similar. Only difference is one was a showpiece on tv and one wasn't.
Just an observation...
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Genuine question - Grade D offence carries a 3 to 5 match ban, so how does weasel Syned only cop for 2 games???
He's either guilty - 3 to 5 games ban or not guilty - 0 games ban.'"
The charge was downgraded from grade D to grade C , would be interested to know why ? Very odd .
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| Quote ="Leeds Thirteen"The charge was downgraded from grade D to grade C , would be interested to know why ? Very odd .'"
Because they made the charge fit the penalty they had decided to award. Simples
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| 2 matches for that "tackle " is a disgrace. I don't for one minute believe Sneyd planned what he did, but the fact is that while he was hold of Danny's ankle he decided to twist and wrench it - and that wasn't an accident. Rush of blood to the head or not it's got to be dealt with decisively or every $h1thouse in the league will be able to reference this feeble ban when required.
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