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| Quote ="Him"I hope Gotcha's source is correct!
I'd neither cheer nor shed a tear to see the back of Bailey, though I think Clarkson is a useful squad player.'"
Most interesting aspect would be the pivots. Either you....
Play two hookers Clark and Aiton with Buryow reverting to halves......no place for McGuire.
Or you play Clark and Burrow at hooker, no place for Aiton.
Given the latter would be a waste as both should be on the field for a big chunk of the game the the former looks better with Aiton doing lesser cameo roles when Clark would have a breather.
That leaves McGuire a goner. IF true, IF, this signing would be the biggest in terms of shaking up the foundations of our team for a very long time. One of the golden trio would have to make way.
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| Burrow to Cas as part of the deal to bring Clark to Leeds? The rumour Cas after him never disappears.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Burrow to Cas as part of the deal to bring Clark to Leeds? The rumour Cas after him never disappears.'"
Would be a bad option. McGuire would be more suitable for us to go, also Cas might not keep Sneyd.
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| Would love Clarke but cannot see it happening as why sign Aiton at the end of last season?
With regards to Cuthbertson, lets hope that Buderus hasn't recommended him to us as we all know how his last recommendation worked out
Also last season, his first at the Knights, Cuthbertson missed a lot of matches with recurring groin problems
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| Apparently Canberra Raiders are interested in Hardaker.
With a player of his quality, along with Hall and Watkins, I think we'll struggle to keep all three.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Apparently Canberra Raiders are interested in Hardaker.
With a player of his quality, along with Hall and Watkins, I think we'll struggle to keep all three.'"
Hardaker has had contact from 11 clubs in Australia. All that contact though was last year when he was discussing his new conract with Leeds, that then fell apart.
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| I cant see us getting Clarke but would happily welcome him IF by a minor miracle he signed for us.
I think we will see many Clubs getting linked with Hardaker & Watkins the Challenge for GH is trying to keep em both an das I've said before I'd happily sacrifice 2/3 1st teamers to raise extra money for both of them to have improved deals.
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| Funnily enough with Canberra, I have said for a couple of years that Hardaker reminds me a lot of the Dugan and they definitely need a full back net season. I think Hardaker would go much better than Tomkins over here at FB too.
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| I too have heard from a Cas source that Clark's move to the Wolves is off & that two Leeds players are on their way to Cas.
I hope that the two rumours are correct & are related ie that Clark is coming to Leeds.
McGuire & Bailey to Cas would be good for both clubs & although I'd be sad to see McGuire go, a time comes when change is necessary.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Apparently Canberra Raiders are interested in Hardaker.
With a player of his quality, along with Hall and Watkins, I think we'll struggle to keep all three.'"
You'd have to hope that with BJB leaving that we manage to keep hold of the other threequarters
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| If sacrificing McGuire is what it takes to get one of the leagues brightest prospects then I'm afraid it will have to be. McGuire was a damn fine player in his peak, but that was many years ago. He still adds to the team but not as much as we need
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| Quote ="The Eagle"If sacrificing McGuire is what it takes to get one of the leagues brightest prospects then I'm afraid it will have to be. McGuire was a damn fine player in his peak, but that was many years ago. He still adds to the team but not as much as we need'"
Cant argue with that
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| Can see McGuire going tbh.
Clark & Aiton would need to both start, so Burrow reverts to SH. You've also got young Sutcliffe as well competing for space in the halves.
Add to that that McGuire is more injury-prone (until this year) than both Sinfield & Burrow, and that he doesn't bring what either of them do (Kev's kicking & passing game, Burrow's support play & speed around the ruck) it'd be worthwhile moving him on.
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| Quote ="Worlds Apart"Can see McGuire going tbh.
Clark & Aiton would need to both start, so Burrow reverts to SH. You've also got young Sutcliffe as well competing for space in the halves.
Add to that that McGuire is more injury-prone (until this year) than both Sinfield & Burrow, and that he doesn't bring what either of them do (Kev's kicking & passing game, Burrow's support play & speed around the ruck) it'd be worthwhile moving him on.'"
If you believe what another poster has just started a new thread about Danny's going to Halifax
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| Quote ="Worlds Apart"Can see McGuire going tbh.
Clark & Aiton would need to both start, so Burrow reverts to SH. You've also got young Sutcliffe as well competing for space in the halves.
Add to that that McGuire is more injury-prone (until this year) than both Sinfield & Burrow, and that he doesn't bring what either of them do (Kev's kicking & passing game, Burrow's support play & speed around the ruck) it'd be worthwhile moving him on.'"
Along with Burrow being able to play hooker if we an injury there with Sutcliffe then starting in the halves.
* a season long loan for Robbie Ward next year would be ideal too if we can find the right club for him to go to.
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| I still think McGuire has a lot to offer Leeds, and has looked pretty good in games I've seen this season, albeit without grabbing the headlines. I'd like to think McGuire would end his playing career at Leeds, with Sutcliffe to come in whenever the decision is made.
That said, the golden generation can't soldier on forever. I would have said there are other more obvious survivors from the 2004 team to be shipped out first though - Ryan Bailey and JJB in particular. Of the spine of the team McGuire is probably the easiest to replace with the personnel already in place at the club.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I still think McGuire has a lot to offer Leeds, and has looked pretty good in games I've seen this season, albeit without grabbing the headlines. I'd like to think McGuire would end his playing career at Leeds, with Sutcliffe to come in whenever the decision is made.
That said, the golden generation can't soldier on forever. I would have said there are other more obvious survivors from the 2004 team to be shipped out first though - Ryan Bailey and JJB in particular. Of the spine of the team McGuire is probably the easiest to replace with the personnel already in place at the club.'"
Not a bad post, some pertinet points raised too.
Would Danny be prepared to "Do a Wellens" ie be willing to come on from the bench and not be the star man even?
For me he's far from done at Leeds, but does need to realize that he's not the spring chicken he once was and using team mates around him sometimes is the better option.
More of a tune up of his game rather than sending him off to the knackers yard.
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| Quote ="Gotcha" (Snip) Apparently Warrington pulled out of a deal due to financial restrictions at their side.'"
Financial restrictions? Our owner is Simon Moran a local man who loves his rugby. His company puts on about 2,000 shows a year as well as co-owning the T in the Park and V Festival. He's involved with Take That amongst other bands and he is involved in the management of major London venues including the O2 Shepherd's Bush Empire and O2 Brixton Academy. Where is the financial restrictions at Warrington. He puts FREE travel on for away cup games.
There is a story that Warrington paid Castleford a fee in order to save them from financial difficulty about 2 years ago with the deal for Clarke coming to Warrington later down the line. It's all rumours at this time but financial restrictions will only apply if we're buying major signings in other positions.
Just saying!
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| FFS. There's been a salary cap in RL for years now you know.
Not to mention the fact that people with a lot of money generally don't just chuck it away. Warrington won't have carte blanche to just spend what they want.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I too have heard from a Cas source that Clark's move to the Wolves is off & that two Leeds players are on their way to Cas.
I hope that the two rumours are correct & are related ie that Clark is coming to Leeds.
McGuire & Bailey to Cas would be good for both clubs & although I'd be sad to see McGuire go, a time comes when change is necessary.'"
Sorry wouldn't be good for us at all, You get the best hooker in the league yet we get Bailey,...who is shot and McGuire has lost his pace and has the attitude of a drama queen
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| McGuire leaving? I really can't see, he's been pretty good this season. His qualities are still pretty undervalued by many fans IMO.
The only rumour I can see coming off is the cuthburtson one, bails may well end up at cas but I can't see us landing Clark, although it would be an awesome signing
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| Clark to Wire is a done deal.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Clark to Wire is a done deal.'"
Pfft.
So was Willie Talau and Lesley Vainikolo to Leeds.
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| Quote ="Him"Pfft.
So was Willie Talau and Lesley Vainikolo to Leeds.'"
Are we still signing Gareth Ellis back from West Tigers?
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