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| Quote ="G1"Is that unconscious something or other on my part?'"
I'm afraid it could well be, just try to avoid 'them boys' in future.
Quote ="G1"No stats for Broughton this week TVOC?'"
No but they are available if you are desperately keen to see them.
I also have Diskin's available if you're interested?
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| Quote ="G1" I fudged it up by typing Bailey when i meant something else.'"
Everyone has done that, don't worry. It's called a Bailey-slip.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'm afraid it could well be, just try to avoid 'them boys' in future.
No but they are available if you are desperately keen to see them.
I also have Diskin's available if you're interested?'"
Give us Broughton's stats... if for no other reason, than just because reading the one line of stat will be more interesting than the whole 80 minutes on Saturday night!
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| What an arrogant, loud mouth, gobby, sh[ii[/it stirring, wanna-be-hardman, trouble causing, cheating, turd Bailey is.
Sorry. I meant Tomkins. Bailey-slip.
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| Quote ="G1"Sorry, it was just an opportunity to gloat. Can't let that slip. '"
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos" Bailey-slip.'"
No doubt in 6 months G-Spot will be claiming 'Bailey-Slip' as his own creation.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"G-Spot '" And I always hit the target baby.
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| Quote ="G1"And I always hit the target baby.'"
'sausage' and 'Briggate' I've heard.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"'sausage' and 'Briggate' I've heard.'"
What size sausage?
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"What size sausage?'"
It's hard to tell, just think of a half eaten cocktail sausage - spat out and then stamped on.
That's what he's working with.
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| JJB outstanding tackling stint and good effort for his try.
Poor stats from Kylie
Buderus good all round stats and greatest positive influence for us = MOM_
Senior guilty of poor defence that led to their chance to draw/win the match
Webb did some great work but equally made several crucial mistakes that cost us points.
What the stats don't highlight is the strong controlled performance of Sinfield especially considering he was ill the night before and did well turn out.
Team Stats highlight far too many missed tackles and a collapse of our marker defence (mostly last 10 minutes)
Are there any stats for the interchanges? and is there any injury news? Some players are not on the field for long enough maybe they are carrying injuries?
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| Quote ="G1"...
Hauraki's stats show what a poor game he had handling the ball and defending. He's far too keen to ship the ball on well before contact for my liking.'"
Amongst all your wind-ups & biased posts, you do occasionally come up trumps.
Your comment above was something that we remarked upon at the game.
Young Farrell's stats were impressive for the opposition & it's notable that Lima had no misses, but then coming in as third man you shouldn't miss.
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| Some good tackling stats from kirke and good metres from Bailey.
Too many missed tackles overall which i suspect a fair few came in the last 15.
Agree G re-hauraki's defence reminds of young Burgess when he 1st broke through very flat footed.
Plenty of positives though to build on and onto next week.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"
Plenty of positives though to build on and onto next week.'"
Agreed. If you'd have shown me those stats, and offered me a draw before the game I'd have snapped your hand off.
Obviously a little gutted we didn't hold out, but still I'm happy enough with that all things considered.
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| I witnessed the FG debut of ex-Leeds academy Tom Burgess yesterday and thought he showed a hell of a lot for a 1 spell 20-25 minute spell. I was eager to see his stats this morning and even I didnt think they were as good as I saw...
Metres - 89
Carries - 8
m/carry - 11.1
Tackles - 6
Misses - 1
Not only that, he was directly responsible for Elima's try as his dummy run took 3 players with him which opened up the space for Kearney to put Elima through. I just hope they ease him in instead of rushing him. Dont want him to end up like Stuart Fielden.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"I witnessed the FG debut of ex-Leeds academy Tom Burgess yesterday and thought he showed a hell of a lot for a 1 spell 20-25 minute spell. I was eager to see his stats this morning and even I didnt think they were as good as I saw...
Metres - 89
Carries - 8
m/carry - 11.1
Tackles - 6
Misses - 1
Not only that, he was directly responsible for Elima's try as his dummy run took 3 players with him which opened up the space for Kearney to put Elima through. I just hope they ease him in instead of rushing him. Dont want him to end up like Stuart Fielden.'"
Or his brother, Sam, with a bust shoulder at 22/23?
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"
Buderus good all round stats '" Perfect example of what I mean. Good all round stats if you completely ignore the 3 missed tackles, two handling errors and 3 penalties.
Talk about agendas.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Or his brother, Sam, with a bust shoulder at 22/23?'"
Sam's problem is more to do with his "smash" tackle techneque. A bit like SBW before he went to Union (where that kind of thing is frowned upon). Sam can still be a great without the shoulder charge though and will probably become a better defender.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Sam's problem is more to do with his "smash" tackle techneque. A bit like SBW before he went to Union (where that kind of thing is frowned upon). Sam can still be a great without the shoulder charge though and will probably become a better defender.'"
Possibly but also over-developing his muscles before his frame/skeleton has fully formed due to being thrown in at the deep end at a very early age, may also have played a part in his injuries, similar to Fielden. Unlike, say, Peacock or our beloved coach McDermott who came into the f/t game at an older age when their bodies were fully mature.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"=#FF0000Are there any stats for the interchanges? and is there any injury news? Some players are not on the field for long enough maybe they are carrying injuries?'"
Not as a rule but as I've just spent time collecting them for this particular game for another thread here they are:
Leeds substitutions:
1 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (15 mins)
2 - Clarkson replaces Pitts (31 mins)
3 - McShane replaces Buderus (31 mins)
4 - Cross replaces Hauraki (33 mins)
5 - Buderus replaces Bailey (36 mins)
6 - Leuluai replaces Kirke (48 mins)
7 - Bailey replaces Cross (51 mins)
8 - Hauraki replaces Clarkson (53 mins)
9 - Cross replaces Bailey (62 mins)
10 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (67 mins)
11 - Pitts replaces Jones-Buchanan (68 mins)
12 - Jones-Buchanan replaces Cross (75 mins)
Which roughly equates to the following game-time:
Backs (Webb, Watkins, Ablett, Senior, Hall, Sinfield, Burrow) - 80 mins each
Leuluai - 34 mins
Buderus - 75 mins
Bailey - 47 mins
Pitts - 43 mins
Hauraki - 60 mins
Jones-Buchanan - 73 mins
McShane - 49 mins
Clarkson - 22 mins
Kirke - 46 mins
Cross - 36 mins
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| The amount of missed tackles suprises me a little. I think it was the best Leeds have defended all season barring the last 10-15 mins. Still, it shows although the performance in general was good there are still lots of things to work on.
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| Indeed. The missed tackles is something that needs addressing rightaway. I note that Hauraki could do with improving his stats in that area to balance up once again being our top metres/carry forward.
Odd that fact appears to have been overlooked by some. Again.
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| Quote ="G1"Perfect example of what I mean. Good all round stats if you completely ignore the 3 missed tackles, two handling errors and 3 penalties.
Talk about agendas.'"
And you ignore 27 full tackles (2nd top), 1 superb try, another try making pass, another penalty won from dummy running. Not to mention constantly taking us forward and putting us on the front foot, quality distribution, 18 carries, 15 runs from dummy half, 135 metre gain (top).
Buderus made 10 tackles more, 25 metres more and 3 carries more than your mate Bailey who also made 3 missed tackles and gave one penalty away which led to a try ... yet you praise him to the skies....why?
One of the Buderus penalties was for further tackle he made when deemed to be offside, the other 2 penalties were made for holding down when our defense was shot and one of which may (repeat may) have saved us from losing.
To carp on about his mistakes and somehow imply that these are more important that the huge positive contribution he made in his Man of the Match performance ..... I would say is evidence of an real agenda!
You choose to highlight the penalty he gave away at the end and infer the draw was his fault. Yet you never mention Senior's appalling defence that put us in that situation. Neither do you mention Webb's 2 forward passes that cost us victory or him not being at home for S Tomkin's try.
Players that are fully involved will always make some errors which is why I defend JJB who is apt to give away pens.
Buderus was the stand out player .....admit it!
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| Quote ="tvoc"Not as a rule but as I've just spent time collecting them for this particular game for another thread here they are:
Leeds substitutions:
1 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (15 mins)
2 - Clarkson replaces Pitts (31 mins)
3 - McShane replaces Buderus (31 mins)
4 - Cross replaces Hauraki (33 mins)
5 - Buderus replaces Bailey (36 mins)
6 - Leuluai replaces Kirke (48 mins)
7 - Bailey replaces Cross (51 mins)
8 - Hauraki replaces Clarkson (53 mins)
9 - Cross replaces Bailey (62 mins)
10 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (67 mins)
11 - Pitts replaces Jones-Buchanan (68 mins)
12 - Jones-Buchanan replaces Cross (75 mins)
Which roughly equates to the following game-time:
Backs (Webb, Watkins, Ablett, Senior, Hall, Sinfield, Burrow) - 80 mins each
Leuluai - 34 mins
Buderus - 75 mins
Bailey - 47 mins
Pitts - 43 mins
Hauraki - 60 mins
Jones-Buchanan - 73 mins
McShane - 49 mins
Clarkson - 22 mins
Kirke - 46 mins
Cross - 36 mins'"
Thanks tvoc.
This makes the effort of Buderus and JJB really outstanding and also not bad for Cross. If Clarkson was not injured its strange he was not on at the end with fresh legs.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto" If Clarkson was not injured its strange he was not on at the end with fresh legs.'"
That was my first thought also when compiling the changes from the Sky coverage.
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