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| Quote ="christopher"Do you know having read both his and Hetheringtons statements I think this is for the best, it seems they both had different opinions on what the job entailed, seems sll of us that thought he was working up to be chief exec when gary retires were wrong and he did want yo be more involved in the in field stuff?'"
That’s my take on it too. From a cost perspective, he’d have demanded a big wage, but so would a head coach. Not sure 2 large salaries in the coaching department is either justifiable or practical at the current time.
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| Hmm strange one. I was told by someone who knows him well he really didn’t enjoy the coaching role.. must have had a change of heart. Well, I’m gutted he’s leaving our club he’ll have been offered big money no doubt too. Wonder if we’ll bring someone in the role?
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Hmm strange one. I was told by someone who knows him well he really didn’t enjoy the coaching role.. must have had a change of heart. Well, I’m gutted he’s leaving our club he’ll have been offered big money no doubt too. Wonder if we’ll bring someone in the role?'"
Agar to move up to DoR and a new head coach?
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| I'm more sorry that this will be a coup for RU over our sport
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I'm more sorry that this will be a coup for RU over our sport'"
Yep, strange but im not overly worried about him leaving the club its a bigger loss to RL in general IMO
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| Quote ="christopher"Yep, strange but im not overly worried about him leaving the club its a bigger loss to RL in general IMO'"
Exactly RU will promote this as a step up for Sinfield. It will also be interesting to see which direction the club goes now as to wether they will retain the role of DOR ?
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| Certainly looks like a bit of tension between KS and GH from the statement.
Not surprising really, the club has been under pressure on all fronts.
Definitely a loss but Kevin’s profile is high now and good luck to him in whatever he does. I just hope his son stays with the club and we don’t see yet another Owen Farrell/George Ford scenario.
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| I dont want to use the term " lame Du k " ,but decisions need to be made in planning for next season and Sinfield surely cant identify new signings when he wo t be here and the new man may have other ideas.That is if the club are retaing the DOR role
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| Quote ="D4mo78"Agar to move up to DoR and a new head coach?'"
Yes could see that happening. Agar has very good contacts in Aus too for recruitment.
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| Quote ="christopher"Yep, strange but im not overly worried about him leaving the club its a bigger loss to RL in general IMO'"
Agreed. It’s a huge blow to RL. His profile has never been as high. Big big blow to the game. I really fear for the future of RL in this country
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Agreed. It’s a huge blow to RL. His profile has never been as high. Big big blow to the game. I really fear for the future of RL in this country'"
A not particularly successful administrator is leaving his role. Let's not get unnecessarily - if not ridiculously - hyperbolic about things.
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| Quote ="DHM"I'm not working out what Leicester will want Kev to actually do? I assume they would be keeping Steve Borthwick as DOR as he actually seems to be improving Leicester this season (although that's not hard as they were absolute rubbish last year). Kev would surely not be a front line coach? Although maybe that's it. Kev might see his future coaching in RU rather than "administration" in league. Leicester would be as good a place as any to start learning the job.
I agree with Bang, if he does go and it's basically a coaching position, it wouldn't look great for league.'"
If I can play devil's advocate, would it not say that Union has to poach from League as they don't have people
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| To add to my previous message I've just seen it confirmed that he will be leaving at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"If I can play devil's advocate, would it not say that Union has to poach from League as they don't have people
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| Seems to me to be a big loss to Leeds and RL
I would prefer Hetherington to retire and Sinny be allowed to restructure the club including bring the player recruitment policy up to the levels of the successful RL clubs.
Hetherington has not moved with the times and needs to retire. IMHO
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"Seems to me to be a big loss to Leeds and RL
I would prefer Hetherington to retire and Sinny be allowed to restructure the club including bring the player recruitment policy up to the levels of the successful RL clubs.
Hetherington has not moved with the times and needs to retire. IMHO'" What area's hasnt Hetherington moved with the times?
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| It sounds as if Kevin was happy with the amount of administration involved with the job, so has decided to take up a role focused more on coaching and performance (with a higher salary!). Fair play to him.
It'll be interesting to see who replaces him, as it's clearly a very difficult and specialised role.
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"
I would prefer Hetherington to retire and Sinny be allowed to restructure the club including bring the player recruitment policy up to the levels of the successful RL clubs.
Hetherington has not moved with the times and needs to retire. IMHO'"
That's amongst the most insane things i've seen on here in the past few years.
Sinfield has barely got to grips with running the football department yet you'd want him to take over the running of the entire business? Do you actually know what Hetherington does in his role as CEO?
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"Seems to me to be a big loss to Leeds and RL
I would prefer Hetherington to retire and Sinny be allowed to restructure the club including bring the player recruitment policy up to the levels of the successful RL clubs.
Hetherington has not moved with the times and needs to retire. IMHO'"
What is Kevin Sinfield’s experience in running a business? How does anybody know he’s actually any good in off field matters anyway?
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| I can’t believe the stick Hetherington gets sometimes.
He has been the single most important individual to Leeds’ recent success. More than an coach or player. There is no one better than him in super league at what he does.
Yes, he can be cheap. Yes, there’s been a few dodgy signings over the years. But overall, what a difference he’s made!
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"I can’t believe the stick Hetherington gets sometimes.
He has been the single most important individual to Leeds’ recent success. More than an coach or player. There is no one better than him in super league at what he does.
Yes, he can be cheap. Yes, there’s been a few dodgy signings over the years. But overall, what a difference he’s made!'"
A quality manager who doesn't get the credit he has earned
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| I think Sinfield will be at Leicester at the start of their pre season training
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"Seems to me to be a big loss to Leeds and RL
I would prefer Hetherington to retire and Sinny be allowed to restructure the club including bring the player recruitment policy up to the levels of the successful RL clubs.
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I can understand your comments but you are wrong, at which stage would Kevin Sinfield be ever made CEO of the club.
As a player, he is without doubt a legend, a brilliant player for Rhinos, possibly the glue that held the team together. Now six years later we are still rebuilding, the jury is still out on what long term success he has brought to the club, he has not had sufficient time in this role to show us how good he actually is, the table shows we are 9th in the league, the continuing rebuilding of team is in the sixth year.
Has he been given a fair crack of the whip, has someone else been pulling the strings, make Sinfield CEO, but he still has little clout, Caddick and GH have all the power and also the shares. If GH was to retire, then between Caddick and GH they will be a legal agreement in place as to allowing Caddick to buy the shares. If not GH will simply pass down the shares to his son and daughter. The same with Caddick, he will either sell his shares to some well off individual or pass them down to the family. The people who own the shares are the decision makers. Whatever role Sinfield would end up with he would be always answerable to someone. Titles are firms mean little, its the shareholders who will make the decisions, in this case my thoughts are these people need to change attitudes.
Will it change, for change to happen attitudes have to change, there is no one better in SL than running a club on a tight budget than GH, for the future we have to either try and spend big or hope the kids who are coming through will be good enough.
Has Sinfield been given a fair crack of the whip, in terms of where the team is, 9th in the league he could have done better, has the board supported him i think the answer is no, they could have done better.
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| Quote ="Brodie123"Has Sinfield been given a fair crack of the whip, in terms of where the team is, 9th in the league he could have done better, has the board supported him i think the answer is no, they could have done better.'" You think providing him with a playing budget significantly greater than any we had during his playing days and massively increasing the size of the coaching team and coaching budget were him not being supported? What more do you want? He was then in charge of deciding how to spend those budgets.
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| If he wanted to coach why didn’t we just let him coach??
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