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| Quote ="FGB"In a recent interview with Phil Caplan, Phil said Brian Mac would never have been considered for the England job due to ‘political’ reasons and that he is seen as ‘the Brian Clough of Rugby League’.
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Yes, i can see McDermott's first gathering with the england squad now.....
' you Wigan lads..... You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Shaun Wane. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest f'kin dustbin ya can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.' |
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| Quote ="FGB"In a recent interview with Phil Caplan, Phil said Brian Mac would never have been considered for the England job due to ‘political’ reasons and that he is seen as ‘the Brian Clough of Rugby League’.
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Though I respect Caplan I cannot understand that. He is the ultimate diplomat in comparison to the great ape. |
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Quote ="tigertot"Though I respect Caplan I cannot understand that. He is the ultimate diplomat in comparison to the great ape.'"
Think it comes from something McDermott said a few years back in this article
www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/f ... nald-mcrae
"He missed out on becoming head coach of the Bradford Bulls and England because he had yet to temper his straightforward approach. "The England interview was the worst in history. I swore a couple of times and I think they were expecting laptop presentations and loads of data. I can do that until the cows come home but that doesn't win you games. I left knowing I'd never get that job but I wouldn't have wanted it if I'd had to be someone other than me. I'd have been in turmoil then."
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Quote ="tigertot"Though I respect Caplan I cannot understand that. He is the ultimate diplomat in comparison to the great ape.'"
Think it comes from something McDermott said a few years back in this article
www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/f ... nald-mcrae
"He missed out on becoming head coach of the Bradford Bulls and England because he had yet to temper his straightforward approach. "The England interview was the worst in history. I swore a couple of times and I think they were expecting laptop presentations and loads of data. I can do that until the cows come home but that doesn't win you games. I left knowing I'd never get that job but I wouldn't have wanted it if I'd had to be someone other than me. I'd have been in turmoil then."
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| Just thought i would help you out by bumping this. 
Losing to the likes of Cas and Wakey simply not good enough.
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The only way he'll go is if Sinfield can be persuaded back in player coach role. Otherwise we will continue winning 1 in every or 5 and hope we come through the million pound match
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| Well, there was always going to be the day when the OP would be vindicated.
Norman Stanley Fletcher, that time is now  |
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FAO Cas fans.
The idea of trolling isn't to point out something that the people you're trying to troll actually agree with.
HTH.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"FAO Cas fans.
The idea of trolling isn't to point out something that the people you're trying to troll actually agree with.
HTH.'"
actually, that's probably the most fun you can have when trolling..... they're rubbing your face in it.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Well, there was always going to be the day when the OP would be vindicated.
Norman Stanley Fletcher, that time is now
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Nobody else has beaten Wigan at home this season.
So no disgrace in losing in the way we did.'"
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"FAO Cas fans.
The idea of trolling isn't to point out something that the people you're trying to troll actually agree with.
HTH.'"
Dont worry, they wont be laughing next year when we take their coach (and maybe their 7) off them
And before anyone says we cant get them, just remember these people have families, we currently still have the highest attendance in the league even though we are bottom so we can throw the cheque book at them |
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Is he gone yet?
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| Quote ="head"Is he gone yet?'"
Nope, and he'll see the season out so cry yourself to sleep. |
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So when was the last time the Leeds RL team managed to lose seven straight 1st grade matches?
Heard it may have been 1985/86 but I think they were seven (actually eight and nine games) without a win - not quite the same thing.
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| Quote ="tvoc"So when was the last time the Leeds RL team managed to lose seven straight 1st grade matches?
Heard it may have been 1985/86 but I think they were seven (actually eight and nine games) without a win - not quite the same thing.'"
According to the 2016 Official Handbook:
Most Consecutive Losses:
10 - Nov 24th 1945 - Jan 26th 1946
7 - Aug 25th 1945 - Sep 29th 1945
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Thanks for that. Just reading about that season in the Headingley story Volume 1. As Ken Dalby describes -'He (your average Leeds fan) suffered torment as he saw his team languish at the foot of the table and suffer one indignity after another. And yet he understood and knew that it would take time to pick up the threads.'
For 2016's loss of a familiar training base just read WW2.
Something for the lads still to aim for then.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Dont worry, they wont be laughing next year when we take their coach (and maybe their 7) off them
And before anyone says we cant get them, just remember these people have families, we currently still have the highest attendance in the league even though we are bottom so we can throw the cheque book at them'"
So Gale signing a new 5 year contract was just a smokes screen - he really is coming to Leeds?
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you should know david that what Hetherington says and what he does are totally different.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"you should know david that what Hetherington says and what he does are totally different.'"
Exactly Tad. Surprised people have not cottoned on to Hetheringtons previous on this yet. No way NcDermott will be in the same role next year. |
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| Quote ="tad rhino"you should know david that what Hetherington says and what he does are totally different.'"
Hopefully you are correct - something has to change |
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Exactly Tad. Surprised people have not cottoned on to Hetheringtons previous on this yet. No way NcDermott will be in the same role next year.'"
Problem is if he stays he will still be first team coach - which is the least destructive role he can have in the club.
If you made him Director of rugby and the first team coach had to report into him it would restrict the quality of coach you could get. Him in charge of youth development, let's not go there |
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Problem is if he stays he will still be first team coach - which is the least destructive role he can have in the club.
If you made him Director of rugby and the first team coach had to report into him it would restrict the quality of coach you could get. Him in charge of youth development, let's not go there
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I agree with that, which is why I would cut ties. Hetherington has a strange attachment to people though. But he is not an idiot, and he knows the first team coach has to change.
One thing McDermott is very good at, and enjoys, is local community work, and talks with amateur coaches. Perhaps through Leeds foundation, there is another role. |
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Perhaps because if McDermott goes where is going to go - no top club is going to give him a job so he is basically in the wilderness. I just can't see GH letting that happen
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