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| But Ferres is off contract at the end of the season, and I thought he'd indicated he had been told he could/would leave? If we end up keeping him then they're leaving it late. We're overstocked with back rowers though, so I'd be happy for him to go, particularly if he only performs when his contract is ending or he's in the shop window.
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| A few of the players are speaking well of Agar in the Media I.E Cuthbo etc I wonder if this is the club preparing us. For next years Head Coaching announcement?
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| Then again some of the players speaking highly of Agar may just be the players who normally speaking we would be getting rid of.
Maybe a bit of bottom licking going on to secure a contract for next year?
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| The thing is you’d never know unless you were in the camp, we’ll have to wait and see what the club does.
We clearly need some further surgery on the squad so all areas need looking at ahead of 2020.
Personally I don’t think we’ll be title-ready until and unless some of the youth matures and fulfils some potential. We have some very talented lads but they will need to step up if we’re to challenge again.
I do think one more round of tough calls now could save us a lot of issues down the line actually. Most of the work has been done to set better foundations but the job is obviously not complete yet.
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| I will make a bold statement and say I’m happy for Agar to get the Job, as long as a strong assistant is named! I would be happy if Carr was the Full time assistant. The players speak really highly of him, they like him, he gets on with Kev and Gary. A full pre season and I genuinely think he could work well, I will ignore his past.
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| Quote ="sharky64"I will make a bold statement and say I’m happy for Agar to get the Job, as long as a strong assistant is named! I would be happy if Carr was the Full time assistant. The players speak really highly of him, they like him, he gets on with Kev and Gary. A full pre season and I genuinely think he could work well, I will ignore his past.'"
I actually think Agar makes a bit of sense for next year but no too sure about long term.
Over the last 12-18 months the club has had 4 different coaches and numerous playing and backroom staff leave and join.
Unless the club think they definitely have the right coach lined up rushing it will do more harm than good IMO, rightly or wrongly Sinfield and Hetherington will be very wary of an overseas coach after the Furner situation.
Next year will be another year of transition with many players off contract for 2021 the younger players will have more experience and I really think the clubs plan will be to really go for it in 2021
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| Quote ="christopher"I actually think Agar makes a bit of sense for next year but no too sure about long term.
Over the last 12-18 months the club has had 4 different coaches and numerous playing and backroom staff leave and join.
Unless the club think they definitely have the right coach lined up rushing it will do more harm than good IMO, rightly or wrongly Sinfield and Hetherington will be very wary of an overseas coach after the Furner situation.
Next year will be another year of transition with many players off contract for 2021 the younger players will have more experience and I really think the clubs plan will be to really go for it in 2021'"
Wary of an overseas coach? The best three coaches in our history, Murray, Smith, McLennan, all overseas coaches, and all of them whilst Hetherington and Sinfield in situ. They should be very wary of British coaches considering the problems created and getting over.
It is hardly a rush in any sense of the word, when Furner has been out of here for nearly five months now. That is a long time to identify a coach and form a strategy. Infact, history shows us never before has a club took that long to make such a decision. They can spin that one however they like, but this as nothing other than to do with money and control.
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| Now we are safe if the club are going for an outsider I should think an announcement is imminent and if it's going to. Be Agar why wait for the last two games of the season the be played ?
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| Quote ="sharky64"I will make a bold statement and say I’m happy for Agar to get the Job, as long as a strong assistant is named! I would be happy if Carr was the Full time assistant. The players speak really highly of him, they like him, he gets on with Kev and Gary. A full pre season and I genuinely think he could work well, I will ignore his past.'"
Carr may be the head coach, with agar as mentor role
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wary of an overseas coach? The best three coaches in our history, Murray, Smith, McLennan, all overseas coaches, and all of them whilst Hetherington and Sinfield in situ. They should be very wary of British coaches considering the problems created and getting over.
It is hardly a rush in any sense of the word, when Furner has been out of here for nearly five months now. That is a long time to identify a coach and form a strategy. Infact, history shows us never before has a club took that long to make such a decision. They can spin that one however they like, but this as nothing other than to do with money and control.'" How do you know its anything to do with money?
What do you mean by control?
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Carr may be the head coach, with agar as mentor role'"
Which could actually be a good plan isn’t Carr highly thought of?
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"How do you know its anything to do with money?
What do you mean by control?'"
It's my opinion, and it is because it would be a pretty dumb move to stick with the same failed set up. I don't believe dumbness would be the reason, it is more than that. Why did we need Agar's role in the first place, but not need it going forward if he was appointed head coach?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wary of an overseas coach? The best three coaches in our history, Murray, Smith, McLennan, all overseas coaches, and all of them whilst Hetherington and Sinfield in situ. They should be very wary of British coaches considering the problems created and getting over.
It is hardly a rush in any sense of the word, when Furner has been out of here for nearly five months now. That is a long time to identify a coach and form a strategy. Infact, history shows us never before has a club took that long to make such a decision. They can spin that one however they like, but this as nothing other than to do with money and control.'"
Agree with you completely Gotcha apart from I'm not totally convinced of the last line.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It's my opinion, and it is because it would be a pretty dumb move to stick with the same failed set up. I don't believe dumbness would be the reason, it is more than that. Why did we need Agar's role in the first place, but not need it going forward if he was appointed head coach?'" I wouldn't go as far as failed and if Leeds were to win their last two i'm not sure how that leaves the win loss under Agar.Have the club said they won't be replacing former Agar role if he gets the job?
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"I wouldn't go as far as failed and if Leeds were to win their last two i'm not sure how that leaves the win loss under Agar.Have the club said they won't be replacing former Agar role if he gets the job?'"
Agar came in as head coach to steady the ship and avoid relegation, he did not fail
Weren’t we 4 wins from 14 when he came in?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wary of an overseas coach? The best three coaches in our history, Murray, Smith, McLennan, all overseas coaches, and all of them whilst Hetherington and Sinfield in situ. They should be very wary of British coaches considering the problems created and getting over.
It is hardly a rush in any sense of the word, when Furner has been out of here for nearly five months now. That is a long time to identify a coach and form a strategy. Infact, history shows us never before has a club took that long to make such a decision. They can spin that one however they like, but this as nothing other than to do with money and control.'"
McLennan better than Brian Mac? Really?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"McLennan better than Brian Mac? Really?'" Laughable isnt it. Mclennan in our top 3 coaches of all time! Roy Francis may feel a bit aggrieved too.
Never mind the same poster also described Handley as the worst winger in SL a few weeks ago. Called into the GB train on squad today.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Laughable isnt it. Mclennan in our top 3 coaches of all time! Roy Francis may feel a bit aggrieved too.
Never mind the same poster also described Handley as the worst winger in SL a few weeks ago. Called into the GB train on squad today.'"
I have never once said Handley was the worst, don’t make up such nonsense. I said he is poor, and he is. That unfortunately is a sign of the times in what standard our game currently is that he is valued anything above that.
McLennan was a great coach for us, so much better rugby than your idol.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"McLennan better than Brian Mac? Really?'"
Brian Mac who caused the hole we have and are in? Without a doubt.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I have never once said Handley was the worst, don’t make up such nonsense. I said he is poor, and he is. That unfortunately is a sign of the times in what standard our game currently is that he is valued anything above that.
McLennan was a great coach for us, so much better rugby than your idol.'"
I know plenty on here have an agenda against McDermott. I would criticise what happened towards the end of his tenure and you’d think BM has at least some culpability there.
However if he’s not in the club’s top three I’m this months Play Mate.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Laughable isnt it. Mclennan in our top 3 coaches of all time! Roy Francis may feel a bit aggrieved too.
Never mind the same poster also described Handley as the worst winger in SL a few weeks ago. Called into the GB train on squad today.'"
Top of the try scoring list, in a bottom 4 side all sass scored some great individual efforts as well not all handed on a plate by Hurrell as some are making out, only just 23, him and Hurrel could be most potent attack in super league next year.
Is Handley a world beater probably not, is he our best winger? Yes. Is he in the top 4-5 British wingers at the moment? Yes.
he the least of our squad problems at the moment, had a cracking season.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I know plenty on here have an agenda against McDermott. I would criticise what happened towards the end of his tenure and you’d think BM has at least some culpability there.
However if he’s not in the club’s top three I’m this months Play Mate.'"
McLennan cant possibly be above Roy Francis either?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wary of an overseas coach? The best three coaches in our history, Murray, Smith, McLennan, all overseas coaches, and all of them whilst Hetherington and Sinfield in situ. They should be very wary of British coaches considering the problems created and getting over.'"
I suppose it's very easy to forget a coach that won 4 Grand Finals,1 League Leaders Shield,2 Challenge Cup Finals & 1 World Club Challenge If you've got an agenda against him
He also delivered a Treble winning season in 2015 with an ageing and past it's best side and then also delivered a Grand Final master class against the standout SL side by a mile in 2017 by hammering Castleford at Old Trafford
Like him or loathe him but facts can't lie and Brian McDermott is the Rhinos best ever coach,even if he is a former Bulls player Gotcha 
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"McLennan cant possibly be above Roy Francis either?'"
Honesty mate before my time, I was a Doug Laughton love child.
I liked Bluey but he didn’t really last long.
What is fair to say is we will need another one in this general bracket to get back to winning trophies again.
It’s funny with McDermott. Some people just don’t like the bloke and deny his record despite all rational evidence.
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