Sending off at the Wire v Hull game beggars belief.

Switched it off at that point Arthur. I'm not sure I can take the sport seriously any more.

If that’s a red Donno should be expecting his life time ban in the post.

If that’s where we’re going we might as well give up now.

Yep. I did the same.

The game is in big big big trouble unless this madness is stopped. Jon Wilkin clip I’ve seen on social
Media is excellent. Spoken very well

Maybe there will be an NRL takeover or a breakaway competition because literally nobody wants these rules from the RFL.

A lot of top players speaking out on social media tonight. Looks like action on its way.. a lot saying enough is enough

Believe me, what we’re seeing now is literally nothing compared to next year if the Academy trials are angering to go by. It was unplayable and unwatchable at times.

The games about to completely destroy itself which is devastating at a time where we've just started to get the promotion of it sorted.

Personally, I find all the rhetoric from players over this a bit rich. They should go and speak to some of their ex colleagues about why they're trying to sue the game for a pay day, that's why we're at this point.

To provide a bit more context on why these changes are happening, the most recent science seems to suggest that concussions aren't the the most significant factor in potential brain injury in a contact sport. The more significant factor is sub-concussive impacts, these are impacts that don't cause symptoms. So a big part of the intention of these new rule interpretations is to reduce the amount of sub-concusive impacts, which is why even accidental head contact is being clamped down on.

The best thing the game could do at this point is settle all these litigations in some way, and then try to move forward with a process that will prevent players from bringing action against the game. I'm not sure how feasible that is.

How is it a bit rich of current players expressing their views? Their feelings are entirely independent of the former players, they're not connected in any way, any more than yours or mine are.

When are boxing and MMA going to get looked at or is it just that they can afford payouts that concussion and head knocks are ok there?

Tackling techniques are going to have to change greatly, and the wrestling will have reduce. It will take a while to adapt. In RU the new tackle height is even lower, so these changes are coming and players and coaches need to start adapting and working with the governing body to understand what will be expected of them, because I highly doubt we're going back from here.

Publish the scientific findings, make some sensible pragmatic rules, and let players make an informed choice and sign an agreement.

I look forward another rehashing of the rules when more and more tacklers are getting concussed getting knees, elbows and hips to the head.

You cannot eliminate head contact from a contact sport. You cannot eliminate all risk and still play sport.

This situation lacks all common sense. The science just provides information; it’s the job of administrators to apply the evidence in a pragmatic and considered way.

The RFL don’t actually have the agency to control this; they will have silly rules with no players referees or fans. I totally disagree with the clumsy way they are trying to proceed here.

I've no problem with them expressing their views. I just find the clamour for a players's union rich because it's the actions of ex players who are suing the game that has caused this.

As for boxing and MMA, essentially, yes, they can afford the additional insurance and medical costs, as can the NFL.

RL's insurance costs are at least doubling every few years FOR THE LOWEST LEVEL OF COVERAGE, the game can't sustain that cost.

In RU you would have to outlaw rucks and mauls for a start if you proceed with the logic around head contact. It’s frankly a joke.

The elephant in the room is that neither code of rugby can survive this direction of travel. It will become a different sport more akin to tag.

Where has this been reported? You've mentioned it before but I don't think I've ever read about it. Do you have a link?

I don’t know enough about it but I doubt insurers are setting the rules, they will be looking for risk mitigation. The only way to mitigate the risk is not to play. They are there to make profit; they are not interested in insuring RL with the trends in litigation.

Where do you suggest we go with this?

Again, their views are not connected in any way to former players so that's nothing to do with them, theyre not happy with their working conditions so a collective union is the right course of action.

There won't be professional game for them to worry about affording if this is the continued direction of travel. And rules may be more strict but in real terms will that actually affect insurance costs because you cant eliminate risk.

For 35 years I was privileged to play, watch and coach the game. I will remind myself of that when it has been completely destroyed.

We need to think more creatively. Players are going to have to disclaim and accept more risk, and insurance needs to be sorted - maybe codes of rugby combine and form their own regulated insurance product which satisfies legals.

The data seems to suggest that head clashes have the highest risk factor to cause a head injury, (which may explains why even accidental head to head contact is punished), and tackles made around the torso have the lowest risk factor. The risk factor is 3 or 4 times lower.

It’s just weak to screw the game completely on the whim of underwriters. We need an effective way to mitigate risk to players long term health.

What we are looking at now is the reality that insurers don’t want to touch rugby with a barge pole because the risk of loss is too high and they make profit.

RL inherently induces injury. It is inherently risky. We’re being driven by bean counters and nannies. We can significantly reduce the risk or ongoing brain injury and still have an amazing sport; these things are not mutually exclusive and I reject the current approach.

I’d love someone to explain to me what possible point there is in punishing an accident.