It’s not comparable though, most people have other jobs to go to and aren’t working in the public eye for a contract elsewhere.

Let’s take Bentley who’s off contract, he needs to seriously up his game to either get another contract at Leeds or for someone else to want to give him a decent deal.

Mind you isn’t his agent Craig Harrison? If so he’ll automatically end up at Hull KR

It's not too bad if it just one player but......

Who is that would rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac?

Just to be clear I am not calling for RS head but I cannot work out this passive defence philosophy. We oncede metres and metres of ground then expect to score from 70, 80 or ninety metres out. How is that ever going to work against any half decent side? A good coach should be able to change tatic when something is not working. If we play the same way next season, when RS has the squad he wants, then it is time for him to go.
And I agree the six again is a lousy rule. It is just being exploited. The ref should be able to award penalties for laying on but that never happens now. six again is an easy cop out for the ref and does not really penalise the guilty party.

Chris - I agree with your sentiment - if these players are already sorted e.g. Olpharts last year and the fans aren't aware then that would be a reason - not justifiable to me but reason none the less. Bentley wants to go to the NRL - maybe this is already sorted?

The performances here in the SL will have no bearing on where the NRL players will end up e.g. Josh Reynolds so professional pride apart why risk serious injury by giving it everything - might as well coast - they will get paid either way.

So looks like we are losing/ ooc
Tet
Donaldson
Fusitua
Bentley
Sezar
Austin

That's a lot of cap and QS and I dont think I'd care about losing any or all of them.

wonder if Christopher has thoughts of being a cheerleader....

Actually some good players there, not as simple as replacing these to improve!

Not with my knees.

It’s better than being a miserable sod.

I'd keep Austin TBH. Im pretty sure we'll struggle to replace both halves in one go. The rest I'd let go. Bentley can be very good, I'm undecided if we should retain or not. Depends on salary cap.

I'm open to keeping Bentley, mainly because he has bags of potential if he can reclaim his Sts form, but also because Martin needs to be kept on his toes form-wise. Bentley is also english, moved to Leeds because it's his home town club, and won't cost the earth.

I'd rather let Sezer and Austin go, providing we can get 2 halfs in. The problem is we need to prioritise a half with speed. Austin isn't exactly an organiser, so if we can get a quick, explosive running half, do we opt to keep Sezer instead even though his forms been worse?

Are you Ronnie Rhino?

Nope, Are You Bull Man?

Seems that way with how much you seem to dislike the club

I doubt we'll get two decent halfbacks in one go either. Its got to be horses for courses, as Sezer and Austin are very different styles. That's supposed to be a good thing but they've rarely actually played that well together for us (that's another issue).

We've seen before what happens when you try to play without an organising halfback - umpteen combinations of Myler, Sutcliffe etc failed miserably. I guess Sinfield is the future hope there, but would you want to rely on him next season? I'm not even fully convinced he's going to make a SL player yet, let alone run the team. Problem is if we bring in someone for two or three years (which we might need to do to attract someone) does that mean Sinfield will leave regardless?

Its all very hard, and I'm glad I'm not the one having to make decisions. Get it right and we're set. Get it wrong and we'll be having this same discussion in two or three years.

Agree re Bentley. You've convinced me that we should keep





There's no way we'll get two good halves in at the same time, it would cost a fortune. But, what do we know ?

Funny Chris. Keep it up

I could understand keeping Austin as he at least seems to try and as said, it's going to be near impossible to sign two HBs of quality at the same time.
I'd like an organising 7 to help bring Sinfield on and partner whoever is at 6.

Tet hasn't done enough. Fusitua has had too many injuries, Donaldson isn't good enough.

Bentley seems to want out. While he can put in some good shifts ( especially the back end of last season ) he was a ban on legs first half of the season when we really needed him.
If we can keep him on a sensible wage I wouldn't be unhappy
If he leaves for NRL, likewise.

Yeah i'm yet to be convinced with Sinfield too... really hope he makes it though for obvious reasosn. Would be an amazing story and a huge benefit to the club. Personally i think he needs a good loan.

At the risk of knee-jerking on one result, I do think I was wrong about Smith/the project.

I’m starting to come round to the way of thinking that Smith needs time. You come back from 14-0 away at wigan and a man down, that’s surely the building blocks of something?

Let’s give him time, and let him cook.

He needs time and some more of his own players.

What last night does show is that the idea that some on here have been saying that hes lost the dressing room and players have downed tools is a load of nonsense

Until the next time we lose and you knee jerk back to Smith out

Tetevano is on about £200k a year, so he has to go to free up a marquee spot or stay with a big pay cut. Not sure Fusitua will ever be really fit again, so I’d let him go too, agree about Donaldson. Bentley was really good at end of last season but not at that level yet this year. I would be surprised if he got a gig in the NRL, but who knows. Agree keep if we can.
If we also lose Walters, Tindall and Lisone plus Leemjng has gone, that’s a lot of players to replace before Austin and Sezer come into play.
I’d keep Austin and see how it goes with Sezer. It I’m guessing Sezer will be replaced.

To be honest, I forgot how young Bentley is. If we keep him, fair enough, but I'm not sure his style is suited to the current game. He's a sin bin waiting to happen. But he doesn't really have the power or size to enable him to tone down his aggression. He'll be one of the top earners as well, I think

Given the amount of players that are now looking likely to leave:
Walters
Tetevano
Fusitua
Tindall
Sezer

We should definitely keep Bentley and Austin.
Bentley is still young enough to regain his early form.
And Austin shows flashes of good stuff in games. Said it before, not many players like him about. Well worth another year.

That still leaves a lot of recruitment to do.
FB/winger
Centre
HB
Prop (x2)

Lisone could leave too.