Im actually happy (ish) despite the loss, we are obviously lacking quality but the effort has been far far better

Whats the betting Oledzki will be out after keeping him on.

Referring by the way is a joke the way theyve now changed what constitutes a yellow.

Sironan with two swinging arms to the face and nothing. I’ll refer back to the Prior yellow against Hull. He got a yellow and a one game ban for a lazy arm. Let’s see if he’s called up.

Did I see GH on the big screen? Thought he was OZ bound. Another frustrating night. Total lack of discipline and patience on both attack and defence is something a quality coach will address.

The effort in defence.

Reffing this year has been almost as bad as leeds performances.

Yes we all know we are clueless in attack

How did the big Tongan lad Saints had in the centre go?

Scored an easy try.
Dropped the ball.
Then never saw him again.

Sign him up.....

Easy try to start, then dropped the ball straight away, did absolutely nothing after that.

Effort is a minimal expectation. We are shocking, this is agars legacy with the team he wanted to build.

Effort is a minimal expectation. We are shocking, this is agars legacy with the team he wanted to build.

We are way way way behind teams like saints, but we won’t be playing them every week unfortunately saints aren’t the sides we need to be besting this year.

We have been clueless and lacking effort so im happy to see at least one of those areas improve.

Imagine the score had walmsley and Lees been playing

The quality simply isn't there.
With that level of effort we should have enough to get out of trouble.
But that is a bottom 4 side.

Wakey, Salford, Toulouse will all target the games against us - we have to be prepared to respond to that.
Some big games coming up!!

Why? They weren’t.

Have we not got players missing?

Oledzki was clearly f ked but we keep him out there and now he'll be out. Like newman, we don't learn

That effort and some players back we should be ok

Because with their starting front row missing we were still miles away. Tetevano isn't making any difference to that I'm afraid.

So what, we are clearly miles away from saints.

It’s utterly pointless thinking if what ifs but if you are we were missing 2 props aswell, of course theyd make a difference as would newman and fusitua

JJBs talking about getting players back but the ones that matter are so far off. Just said myler might be another 8 weeks. Realistically who's coming back anytime soon, Tetevano and Dwyer from bans may be Holroyd

Christopher I admire your optimistm again but the scary thing is we're miles off the likes of cas too

Im not optimistic, i think were dire at the moment, but realistically i think were good enough to beat the teams we need to, it’s absolutely pointless going on and on about how poor the squad is, were stuck with it for now.

Were 7 games in, there’s plenty of time to win the games we need to, the reason im Praising the effort is because it is something to build on, if theres no effort theres no hope

Wire look every bit as bad as us, theyve got a supposedly decent coach and on paper a very good team, they need to be just as concerned as us at the moment at least we’ve got some quality to come back into the team

Im not optimistic, i think were dire at the moment, but realistically i think were good enough to beat the teams we need to, it’s absolutely pointless going on and on about how poor the squad is, were stuck with it for now.

Were 7 games in, there’s plenty of time to win the games we need to, the reason im Praising the effort is because it is something to build on, if theres no effort theres no hope

Wire look every bit as bad as us, theyve got a supposedly decent coach and on paper a very good team, they need to be just as concerned as us at the moment at least we’ve got some quality to come back into the team

It’s terrible, we are years away from being a top team, we've been rebuilding for the last 6 years and yet we keep going backwards.
We won’t win trophies with effort alone, they had the best part of half a team missing yet they scored a hat full of points against us. We can also say that we had a lot of talent missing, but going forward we have no idea, their is no confidence, we have 13 workhorses on the pitch at any one time and little class. It’s sad to see, I feel for JJB, he doesn’t deserve this. He knows he’s not the head coach, while he try’s his best, the coaching is simply not good enough. we have no 1, 6,7 or 13, our spine is shocking. Can we go lower, well if we lose to Toulouse we are rock bottom. Maybe getting relegated will get rid of GH.