What is it going to be then with Jack other than the money? i mean, he is at his local club whom there are no bigger in SL and it looks like he will get an opportunity to make a real claim for a first team shirt soon enough. He is 17 and living with mum and dad i assume, has a good 15/20 years ahead of him so why would he want to go to say, Warrington right now for any other reason but more money? I get why players want to move when they are established for other reasons perhaps but not at that age, not at all.

He doesn't live with his mum and dad. He lives with his girlfriend at her parents.

I will say one thing about Warringtons's offer and you make your own opinion. When he he went over there they had six different staff membersl giving presentations to him on what each of them will do to enhance and benefit his game. They laid out the red carpet. At Leeds they do nothing on individual development, and only team development. I repeat what I said previously, Warringtons offer, is better than Leeds current one, but not as good as others in monetary terms.

You were spot on though with been a Leeds fan.

A game lacking creativity, save for Moon’s sublime skills to put Hall over. Stand out performances were Walker, who has done nothing but impress me from first seeing him; Mullally, who destroyed every vegan stereotype in one superb game; & Child, who was almost faultless, despite cramping up or pulling a calf muscle near the end.
I don’t get the praise for Lilley however, a very average C1 or C2 level SH.

I can understand Jack Walker's concerns regarding his individual development going forward.
I can't understand why a club like ours couldn't have a Garry Schofield or Iestyn Harris employed as a skills coach responsible for individual coaching

I hate to say this but there's something about Golding I'm not completely sold on. I think his defence is really good for his age but attacking he offers nothing. Even running away from his line he looks lightweight and like he has a lack of balance.

Where as walker, 3 years younger, has that extra 10% speed and involved himself in attack chiming into the line, something golding doesn't do well.

With briscoe being so poor this season, I wonder how things would pan out with Golding on the Wing next year and walker at fullback. Golding is good defensively (which briscoe is not) and he could learn to find the try line. Which briscoe isn't particularly doing this year anyway.
And walker could have a chance to develop his game at fullback (where he offers more than Golding). If it gets to much for a young walker then we could switch Golding and walker throughout the season. Taking a bit of pressure off each other whilst both still getting game time.

1 walker
2 Golding
3 Watkins
4 moon/sutcliffe/keinhorst
5 hall
6 myler
7 Lilly/sutcliffe/moon

I've just re watched the second half and Lilly's kicking was very good, finding touch when under pressure, earning a repeat set to keep pressure building, leading to a cross field kick for Watkins try on top of the offload for wards try. I don't think you could ask for too much more from a 20 year old half back making his first starting appearance of the year.

Absolutely bang on, and that is the difference for a lot of younger players. Go to the union side though, and they have an abundance of coaches in different skills.

Huh?!

The lack of a prominent skills coach around the club is baffling, has been for a while and it's easy to see why we just seem to rely on biff and barge and off the cuff individual play when we have a bunch of ex forwards on the coaching staff.

I think most fans would agree McDermott has been very good at game plans for individual important games. What he seems incapable of doing is improving the skill set of players.

In Barry Eaton you have a very average Championship player providing the skills training with Plume carrying the balls. You will not get a serious skills coach until McDermott goes as this would highlight McDermott's insecurities.

Walker is a class youngster who needs to be in an environment that will help him develop - the game needs stars - and if Leeds can't offer that then for the good of the game he needs to move on.

Yeah would be great to see him tearing it up against us in couple of years time in a Wigan or Warrington jersey



That would be a disaster, in no way should we start becoming a feeder club for other SL teams, if he goes to the NRL i can accept it but no reason not to pull out the stops and keep him now.

McGuire and Burrow would be excellent skill coaches and one or both should be put into the coaching set up to help bring the backs on.
McDermott can stick to coaching the forwards.
I`m sure Jack Walker looked up to McGuire as he was coming through the ranks.
What better way to have him as his personal coach and mentor?

No rumours about it, people know what kind of money Warrington throw around.

The same McDermott who both pre and post match was quick to praise Geoff Tovey's work with Lilley and how he's improved him? Yeah very insecure from the walking ego that is McDermott to highlight how another coach has improved one of his young players

But Toovey isn't employed at Leeds. Doesn't that back up what he just said? they have to go elsewhere to ehance their game.

Swap deal, McDermott for Toovey?

I like BM despite my sometimes having a go, when I think it's due.
however he does need to realise he needs specialists coached around him. we no longer have the sinfields who don't need it.
sadly I can't see it happening so we'll muddle on

No he was just trying to slate McDermott as insecure even though he's more than happy to heap the credit onto others.

Wouldn't actually be surprised if it did happen. Can't imagine a coach of Toovey's level wants to stay around the bottom of the Championship and who knows maybe part of the reason GH is happy to send some of our youngsters there. Also a top 4 finish for McDermott would be a respectable way to bounce back from last year and bow out and still could pick up one of two prizes.

I don't know about internal coaching set up but at leeds walker can have a stable environment that will make him an international, give him a good living and he will win things. We have nearly a 20 year track record of these. Only wigan and saints can offer the same track record of ticking those boxes.

Agreed, i would be happy with that.

I think GH will stick with Mac though until the building works are completed in 2 years.

We are in 2017 now.

It isn't surprising with Darryl Powell,Danny Orr and Ryan Sheridan that Castleford's attack is far ahead of most teams. They just seem to know what their doing not just playing "off the cuff" like ours !!!

Why is BMcD helping to build it?

I've been offered a job ripping it down. too much work on though.
not sure I could do it either