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| Quote ="Ferdy"there were no bad head shots deserving of sin bin. I seem to remember HK throwing a few. The hit by cross was no way dirty play. Is that ablett when KR stripped the ball but halibut let you off.'"
Not sure Rovers got penalised for any head shots did we?
Will have to defer on the Cross hit on Cockayne. From where I was stood and from my view of the big screen it looked like a case of going straight for the man and ignoring the ball. If it really was a case of the ball being with Cockayne before the hit then fair enough.
The Ablett incident was right in front of me - his hand was knocked by a Rovers player which dislodged the ball. I'm not sure it was even a deliberate knock and their was only one man in the tackle anyway. In any case the Sinfield esque dissent was uncalled for. Definately the right call from Halibut though.
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| Quote ="Barney Stinson"Not sure Rovers got penalised for any head shots did we?
Will have to defer on the Cross hit on Cockayne. From where I was stood and from my view of the big screen it looked like a case of going straight for the man and ignoring the ball. If it really was a case of the ball being with Cockayne before the hit then fair enough.
The Ablett incident was right in front of me - his hand was knocked by a Rovers player which dislodged the ball. I'm not sure it was even a deliberate knock and their was only one man in the tackle anyway. In any case the Sinfield esque dissent was uncalled for. Definately the right call from Halibut though.'"
No dont think you were penalised for any but there were some, as in all games of rugby.
We will have to differ on the cockayne incident, watching on tv didnt look anything in it.
On the ablett thing agree he should have been punished for dissent but not dirty play?
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| The Cross tackle on Cockayne was not in the air, but the player had already lost the ball. It was clear he had no intention of going for the ball, but it was mistimed by milliseconds. If Cockayne had held on to the ball it would have been a belter, but as he lost it Cross was tackling a man without the ball.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"The Cross tackle on Cockayne was not in the air, but the player had already lost the ball. It was clear he had no intention of going for the ball, but it was mistimed by milliseconds. If Cockayne had held on to the ball it would have been a belter, but as he lost it Cross was tackling a man without the ball.'"
Yes true but it was not dirty play as some have suggested.
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| I would say it was aggressive and designed to be intimidating. Dirty maybe, but not a cowardly attack on a player like Lima last week for example.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I would say it was aggressive and designed to be intimidating. Dirty maybe, but not a cowardly attack on a player like Lima last week for example.'"
Aye he turned around and shouted as if to pump himself up after FWIR (Cross Today)
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| i took my daughter(who chose the dark side instead of the black n whites) today and have to say even though you lost from my neutral perspective it was a great game to watch
thought the cockayne/cross incident was a 50/50 call but only saw it the once.both sides did the odd high shot but thought the ref got most things more or less spot on on what i saw
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| We are Leeds bogey team accept it thought Leeds brought a great crowd today so credit to you and rovers were probably bit more cunning today always enjoy watching rhinos play tho, was great atmosphere great day.
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| Quote ="DHM"An accidental collision as Sinfield tried to put one of his teamates on-side. Penalty was fair enough for contact with the full back without the ball.
'" What utter codswallop.
You could clearly see Sinfield look at Cockayne before he made his 'accidental collision'.
I know some Leeds fans are one eyed but good god
I'll not comment of you views on Ben Cockayne as you clearly can't see through your bias.
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| Sinfield did deliberately nudge Cockayne, but that's enough for a penalty.
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| Sinfield actually pushed McShane out of the way in order to stick the shoulder into Cockayne
Cross took out Cockayne well before the ball got there as the ball hit Cross on the shoulder.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Sinfield did deliberately nudge Cockayne, but that's enough for a penalty.'" Thankyou.
It seems only a select few of your boys/girls can't see past their blue/blue and pink shirts.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"Sinfield actually pushed McShane out of the way in order to stick the shoulder into Cockayne
Cross took out Cockayne well before the ball got there as the ball hit Cross on the shoulder.'"
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| Quote ="Roverswall"What utter codswallop.
You could clearly see Sinfield look at Cockayne before he made his 'accidental collision'.
I know some Leeds fans are one eyed but good god
I'll not comment of you views on Ben Cockayne as you clearly can't see through your bias.'"
I said, penalty for contact with the fullback without the ball. Got that? As for intent, I disagree with you that he ran 30 yards just to blatanly barge Cockayne. As neither you nor I can read minds then that's my opinion against yours. Get over it.
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| i thought it was a pretty fair game, no malice from either side. Leeds probably turned up and scored 10 easy points and thought it would be easy, and MAYBE turned off, Rovers never turned off and won fairly, couple of bad forward passes thou, but im not complaining.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"Sinfield actually pushed McShane out of the way in order to stick the shoulder into Cockayne
Cross took out Cockayne =#FF0000well before the ball got there as the ball hit Cross on the shoulder.'"
Agree on the sinfield issue issue.
however cross hit was not well before, as someone said before milliseconds in it.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Agree on the sinfield issue issue.
however cross hit was not well before, as someone said before milliseconds in it.'"
agreed, split second in it, wasnt a dirty challenge, just slightly poor timed
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| Quote ="Ferdy"however cross hit was not well before, as someone said before milliseconds in it.'"
Can't have been milliseconds because the ball to hit him on the back of the shoulder. It was more like half a second.
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| Quote ="DHM"I said, penalty for contact with the fullback without the ball. Got that? As for intent, I disagree with you that he ran 30 yards just to blatanly barge Cockayne. As neither you nor I can read minds then that's my opinion against yours. Get over it.'" So he looked at Ben Cockayne knew he was not going to get to the ball as it was still way up in the air , knew exactly where Cocayne was and ran into him but yet he didn't 'blatanly barge Cockayne'?
Is the grass Blue on you world or what?
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| After the 2007 Leeds try at Craven Park there is no way any try scored from a forward pass can be criticised by the Leeds fans!!!! Silverwood that day might as well have been over in the US officiating with a big set of headphones and a mic that is the size of his own head!!!!!
I would be interested to know the times Rovers were not square and made contact with the attacking player because I have just watched it again and each time one of our markers was not square they just let them run past them. As for flopping, there were one or two that could have been pulled up but nothing drastic, the JJB one was just impossible to ignore!
Oh and I agree Welham did go for the ball and it should have been play on but then in real time Alibert only had his touch judges opinion on it and blame should go to him for that mistake.
Also Cross hit Cockayne as he just touched the ball. Again in real time it would probably have looked like he was taken off the ball but the contact was shoulder to shoulder. As for Sinfield he aimed for Cockayne and shoulder charged him out the way, Ben had no chance of getting around McShane to get to the ball but Sinfield made sure of it and it was a profession foul which should/could have led to 10 minutes in the bin.
Leeds were constantly offside and how from a Leeds kick off in the second half they were not penalised for being in front of the kicker is beyond me! But you get some decisions, others let the game flow. Think Alibert is always up with play and for a relatively new referee to the full time game he is far ahead of others.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"Can't have been milliseconds because the ball to hit him on the back of the shoulder. It was more like half a second.'"
Try pausing it on Sky+, it hits Bens hands not his shoulder, head or anywhere else.
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| nick hkr if alibert is far ahead of other refs then god help superleague
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| I'm not saying he is ahead of the others I am saying his development is far ahead of the others considering his relative newness to the Super League.
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| Quote ="DHM"I said, penalty for contact with the fullback without the ball. Got that? As for intent, I disagree with you that he ran 30 yards just to blatanly barge Cockayne. As neither you nor I can read minds then that's my opinion against yours. Get over it.'"
I think you're a sore loser. Got that? As neither you nor I can read minds then that's my opinion against yours.
And joking aside, it's fairly obvious there was intent or are you telling me Sinfield has a nervous twitch that just happened to kick in when he tried valiantly to get McShane onside (by shoving him out the way...)
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| All I can say as a Rovers fan is that I have noticed that Leeds tend to finish seasons better than they start them.
Very glad Maguire was in the stands today too.
In these salary cap days anyone can beat anyone on a given day.
But in the end the usual suspects will divide up the spoils, you will be one of them I expect.
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