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| Quote ="Harrigan"To say it was his 1st game since September I thought he went well. Certainly was strong in defence and sured us up, something we have missed recently.'"
Surely Leeds can find someone to do this job and more.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Surely Leeds can find someone to do this job and more.'"
He took some decent hit ups today. Last season towards the back end he was making good metres too. Hes only 27 remember. Some props dont hit their peak until they're in the late 20's/early 30s. And is you indirectly said, the last 4 coaches have picked him week in week out since the early 2000's so he cant be that bad.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"How did Bailey play today?
Listened to the 2nd half and didn't hear his name once.'"
As someone who watched the whole game I can offer this:
A strong comeback performance. In the early openings he really rattled Wakie with some big hits. Tackled his heart out. But tackled with a purpose. He also but a couple of big smashes in as third man in which was great to see. He carried the ball up well, apart from one loose carry. When Leeds were penned back with drop out after drop out, he was talking to his team telling them to 'up it' and was very structured in this role, knowing where to be in the line - filling gaps etc. He wasn't the only reason why we kept Wakie to 4 in the first half (we defended well gernerally, but need to cut the penalties out) but he was one of the main reasons. Sinfield had lots of time at scrums to be patting him on the head, because he's doing the dirty work. It's simple really, a bit like Bailey, but we're a stronger team with him in.
He didn't come out in the 2nd half, he played for the first 25 minutes, then Burgess was sin binned straight away from the bin, so he was brought back on, so played around 35 minutes of the first half. Leeds pulled away in the second half so he was then quickly taken off and made no further contribution. HTH
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| From what you describe he seems to have had a solid performance. Look forward to seeing him replicate it at HQ on Friday, injury permitting.
It is concerning that he may have aggrevated the injury again.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"BM stated in after match press conference that he only just about got through the game and that his groin injury flared up again.
He also stated that Kylie played the whole game with a tight hamstring and that Burgess will go in for a knee clear out operartion on Monday (providing we have 17 fit players for Friday,if not they'll delay the op which he was booked in for last week until Ali went lame again)
I assume Ali & Burgess will be missing for a few weeks and if Bailey's groin is an issue again then perhaps Amor will get recalled.
By the way, can anyone who attended the game pass comment on how Amor went today as it wasn't evident from the radio commentary
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That doesnt sound like good news re potential injuries,
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"As someone who watched the whole game I can offer this:
A strong comeback performance. In the early openings he really rattled Wakie with some big hits. Tackled his heart out. But tackled with a purpose. He also but a couple of big smashes in as third man in which was great to see. He carried the ball up well, apart from one loose carry. When Leeds were penned back with drop out after drop out, he was talking to his team telling them to 'up it' and was very structured in this role, knowing where to be in the line - filling gaps etc. He wasn't the only reason why we kept Wakie to 4 in the first half (we defended well gernerally, but need to cut the penalties out) but he was one of the main reasons. Sinfield had lots of time at scrums to be patting him on the head, because he's doing the dirty work. It's simple really, a bit like Bailey, but we're a stronger team with him in.
He didn't come out in the 2nd half, he played for the first 25 minutes, then Burgess was sin binned straight away from the bin, so he was brought back on, so played around 35 minutes of the first half. Leeds pulled away in the second half so he was then quickly taken off and made no further contribution. HTH'"
I'd love to read an "Anti-Bailey" poster's match report on him and compare the two.
FYI, I'm with BB. Thought he did well, first game in a long time and still not 100%. I think what most people forget is he's primarily a "bench prop" and not supposed to be the game changing & dynamic superstar most people try to claim he should be. With the current "prop crisis" (and more specifically the injury to JP) his performances are likely to be much more under the microscope. He's currently been asked/expected to fill in for JP, and clearly he's not capable of just stepping in so that nobody notices JP is missing (who is capable of that?!?!) but Bailey has a role in the squad. A role which he fills incredibly well. There's no doubt we're a stronger team with him in it.
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| Completely agree with RR and BB he did a good job and hopefully he can shake off this groin problem and continue to have an impact.
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| Agree with all 3 post about bailey, We are a better team with him than without. He does a lot of the hard graft which goes un noticed. my only concern for him is this groin injury appears to be still there
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| Quote ="Harrigan"I went mad and called him most names under the sun. Then turned to the people around me and said.. "Are you telling me i'm wrong?"
Webb should have passed to him in the original break though so they both butchered it.
I feel he is justifying my views on a pretty regular basis though so for this, I cant fault him'"
I was surprised you did'nt include Burrow in the "I wanna go home song" you were all singing
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| As someone who shall be attending and watching the whole game next week without so much as a blink, nor a momentary distraction or even a casual glance at the flashy new big screen, I'm looking forward to witnessing first hand (among other stuff) all those little things which Bailey does so well in order to shore up and stiffen the defence. It's those little qualities which often go unreported on a full match commentary on the radio.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"As someone who shall be attending and watching the whole game next week without so much as a blink, nor a momentary distraction or even a casual glance at the flashy new big screen, I'm looking forward to witnessing first hand (among other stuff) all those little things which Bailey does so well in order to shore up and stiffen the defence. It's those little qualities which often go unreported on a full match commentary on the radio.'"
Big screen is old hat now fella. We've all seen it already.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"As someone who shall be attending and watching the whole game next week without so much as a blink, nor a momentary distraction or even a casual glance at the flashy new big screen, I'm looking forward to witnessing first hand (among other stuff) all those little things which Bailey does so well in order to shore up and stiffen the defence. It's those little qualities which often go unreported on a full match commentary on the radio.'"
There's also some seating now in the East Stand, don't let that throw you.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Big screen is old hat now fella. We've all seen it already.
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I'll have my back to it.
Can't wait for Friday night. I've not been this excited since Ian Kirke proudly earned and collected his 3rd Super League Ring. Might also listen to the commentary on the radio whilst in attendance in order to develop an unrivalled perspective of the game on the night.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"There's also some seating now in the East Stand, don't let that throw you.'"
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"I'll have my back to it.
Can't wait for Friday night. I've not been this excited since =#FF0000Ian Kirke proudly earned and collected his 3rd Super League Ring. Might also listen to the commentary on the radio whilst in attendance in order to develop an unrivalled perspective of the game on the night.'"
That was a proud day for everybody! [size=50and by "everybody", I mean Mr. & Mrs. Kirke.[/size
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"I'll have my back to it.
Can't wait for Friday night. I've not been this excited since Ian Kirke proudly earned and collected his 3rd Super League Ring. Might also listen to the commentary on the radio whilst in attendance in order to develop an unrivalled perspective of the game on the night.'"
ROFLMAO
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I'd love to read an "Anti-Bailey" poster's match report on him and compare the two.
FYI, I'm with BB. Thought he did well, first game in a long time and still not 100%. I think what most people forget is he's primarily a "bench prop" and not supposed to be the game changing & dynamic superstar most people try to claim he should be. With the current "prop crisis" (and more specifically the injury to JP) his performances are likely to be much more under the microscope. He's currently been asked/expected to fill in for JP, and clearly he's not capable of just stepping in so that nobody notices JP is missing (who is capable of that?!?!) but Bailey has a role in the squad. A role which he fills incredibly well. There's no doubt we're a stronger team with him in it.'"
By you own recent posts we should be expecting a solid performance with the odd moment of genius which will be better than everyone else in the team. Are you now saying we should not expect a moment of genius from Bailey as he is a "bench prop". If no moment of genius, could his performance be described as anonymous? Then he is no better than Kirke!
You'll find that when some on here give him the title TMFMISL then it is not surprising that Bailey's performances have to back it up .
If he is to justify the title of TMFMISL he should be judged with the likes of JP, Morely and Graham. If not, then maybe his name should be changed to The Most Feared Bog Standard Player In Super League and I will assess his performances accordingly.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs":37i5y1oyBy you own recent posts we should be expecting a solid performance with the odd moment of genius which will be better than everyone else in the team. Are you now saying we should not expect a moment of genius from Bailey as he is a "bench prop". If no moment of genius, could his performance be described as anonymous? Then he is no better than Kirke!
You'll find that when some on here give him the title TMFMISL then it is not surprising that Bailey's performances have to back it up .
If he is to justify the title of TMFMISL he should be judged with the likes of JP, Morely and Graham. If not, then maybe his name should be changed to The Most Feared Bog Standard Player In Super League and I will assess his performances accordingly.'" .
Jamie Jones-Buchanan DOES actually have a song.
Senior isn't actually EVERYWHERE.
and Kevin Sinfield hasn't actually been knighted.
HTH
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| For those who care Bailey contributed over 8 metres per carry (from 9 carries) and got through 28 tackles (4 from marker with 1 miss - a 96.5% tackle success rate). As I already clocked myself he knocked on (1 handling error) and 2 penalties were awarded to him.
So from watching him, I had said he tackled his heart out, ran strongly and overall had a strong comeback.
The stats don't disagree with me do they? Or we could listen to the radio and forget about going to matches and watching them and from that making opinions, judgements etc.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"TMFMISL is Bloodbath's term'"
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| I am one of those people that reviews posts from contributors and expect them to justify their comments otherwise I regard them as s posting cr@p just for the sake of it!
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I am one of those people that reviews posts from contributors and expect them to justify their comments otherwise I regard them as s posting cr@p just for the sake of it!'"
Justify what?!
Of all my posts on here that could be singled out as "posting c[ir[/iap just for the sake of it", you've managed to pick one of the few posts in which I don't say anything wrong!
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"As someone who shall be attending and watching the whole game next week without so much as a blink, nor a momentary distraction or even a casual glance at the flashy new big screen, I'm looking forward to witnessing first hand (among other stuff) all those little things which Bailey does so well in order to shore up and stiffen the defence. It's those little qualities which often go unreported on a full match commentary on the radio.'"
It's things which also go unnoticed to many an eye within the ground. Watching the game, and understanding what you're watching, are not necessarily the same thing.
I'll not be mixing with the salt of the earth types on the Western terrace this week I am afraid. Can't lower my standards two home games in a row. So you'll have to view the match without the benefit of my expert analysis.
Never mind eh, you can always rely upon the expertise of the likes of John Boyd, David Doyle Davidson and other such radio luminaries to help you form your opinions. Guffaw etc etc
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"By you own recent posts we should be expecting a solid performance with the odd moment of genius which will be better than everyone else in the team. Are you now saying we should not expect a moment of genius from Bailey as he is a "bench prop". If no moment of genius, could his performance be described as anonymous? Then he is no better than Kirke!
You'll find that when some on here give him the title TMFMISL then it is not surprising that Bailey's performances have to back it up .
If he is to justify the title of TMFMISL he should be judged with the likes of JP, Morely and Graham. If not, then maybe his name should be changed to The Most Feared Bog Standard Player In Super League and I will assess his performances accordingly.'"
You are apportioning far too literal a meaning to the acronym label. The repetitive application of the TMFMISL label is best described as an attempt by his fans to convey a sense of irony, as well as a simplistic tool to wind up his detractors. This came about as a result of a polarisation of opinion WRT his value and worth to the team. On the one hand, his fans always overstate his value and worth... on the other hand, his detractors always understate his value and worth. The truth lies somewhere in-between. He is neither a great player, nor is he crap. He's a middle-of-the-road squad player who offers something to the team of value and worth. He doesn't pull up any trees and never will (despite his early promise 7 years ago) but he does do all the little things well which go unnoticed. On occasion, he's very good at [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JVWUpbBhAY[uwinding up the opposition[/u[/url however.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn" Might also listen to the commentary on the radio whilst in attendance in order to develop an unrivalled perspective of the game on the night.'"
If you value the opinions of radio hacks so highly then that also speaks volumes as to what value we should attach to your contributions here.
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