Have not read all posts here so forgive me if stated already. The basic question for the disciplinary panel is was it a deliberate attempt ?? I don't believe so. Ablett is NOT a dirty player/thug/Coley.

As for the captain - Joel Tompkins - running in and starting a brawl !!!

Not to forget big brother Joel, who put the hackles up and puffed the chest out like a lion looking after one of his cubs.

Ablett- no intent there, going for a body check on an off balance tomkins, had tomkins been upright that's all it would have been a legitimate big hit as abletts elbow/arm doesn't leave his chest, watch slow mo. Careless and should pull out given tomkins body position.

Bailey- enthusiastic leg drive, knee got nowhere near as the ball carrying arm hit the Wigan man.

Senior, bailey sinfield derfensive shape was poor. Wigans passing more accurate, see carmont try. Leeds actually built good pressure at times, clocking off with skill and discipline is killing them getting anywhere near good enough and Leeds are the weakest of the 4 at the mo.

Couldn't agree more.
There is a serious over-reaction everytime he is touched. Quite embarrassing.

It seems we really have turned into a game where some supporters want to see non contact rather than the magnificent physical contact game that Rugby League can be. I'm a pretty big believer in the players knowing what is acceptable and what is not, and I don't remember seeing too many players "bitching" about the opposition from either side last night. Players police the game just as much as the ref does.

RL is a contact sport, and long may that continue, if you don't want to watch that, then go watch nancyball.

Wigan supporters always have been too precious with their team - remember when Phil Ford put Offiah into the paddock ?

I'm just glad we didn't have the internet in those days, at least you could walk away from them after the game and not have to listen to them bleating for the next seven days.

Bang on but I am hopeful skill and discipline will improve by the playoffs, as they have the last two years, and we won't be the weakest of the 4 then.

What would be funny, and I part say this tongue in cheek, is the reaction of the Wigan fans if Ablett got off with just a fine



Just for the record I think he will get a 3 match ban.

Nail. Head.

As you have typed FACT at the end of your post does that mean it is true, no argument.

However surely a 'Coward' wouldnt 'Charge In'. If he was a coward wouldnt he be hiding behind the sofa?

Your avatar is nearly there. To suit you better it should be a chimp. FACT.

He's not a dirty player guilty of late cheap shots as well is he ?...........maybe Myler might have an opinion on that.

a side of such quality could turn those things round over night, the opportunity to have a settled squad could help. Wouldn't like to say whether they will or won't click, but if they do they certainly have the class.

Should be a 10 game ban minimum. Disgusting.

I just love how Wigan fans are suddenly in a position to start calling other clubs on supposed cheating and foul play.

Let's face it "The Wigan Club" are anything but the paragons of virtue.

They've done it before Seth so I am not ready to write them off after a defeat in July. I think you're right again that the main issue will be keeping a settled squad on the run in now.

F0ck off

It's hard to argue with such a well thought out, reasoned rebuttal.

I'd wager Seth knows a little bit about the techniques he's talking about. I'd wager you are spoon fed by a carer.

The first I can't vouch for, the second you would lose. HTH

That was also my sentiments ablett, and thug bailey dont even get a sin bin yet coley sent of for dangerous play what the Fcuk. I do not support either leeds or wigan but leeds were a disgrace last night, no wonder our game is a laughing stock when youve got idiots like ganson in the middle, he was a disgrace and I felt as a neutral he was determined that leeds were going to get ascore by half time, ref and two ledds players a total disgrace to the game.

Wait, you were being serious?

And that justifies Ablett's challenge?

The problem I have with Abletts tackle is he didnt hit him hard enough

Anyone suggesting that any RFL match official is biased towards any team is clearly stupid and paranoid.

Will you stop plowing this furrow, you're making a fool of yourself! Even IF this was the case, then surely the incoming player is aware of it too? Anyway let's concentrate on a supposed 'dipping of the knees' rather than the fact Ablett attacked Tomkin's head with a raised forearm! Jesus man...go and have a word with yourself!

Again the looneys are allowed online!