Simple fact is that an 18 year old kid (or the young girl who wasn't even old enough to be there) has no experience of performing to an audience that doesn't consist of their family and friends simply because they have no such outlet to do so - its why you see so many of them looking foolish at the audition stage because all they've done is sing along to cd's in their bedroom without any critical involvement.

To put together an act of three 20 minute sessions, to entertain an audience that does not consist of your friends and family, to keep their attention when they are not as fixated with Girls Aloud as the singer is, to actually "perform" (which is what most of X Factor finalists insist is what they want to do) is actually very difficult and often takes years of practice to get right.

Hence the reason why the weekly knock-out rounds try to introduce a few different (but predictable) genres - the one-song ponies are quickly rooted out at that stage, its the modern equivalent of the WMC, the sort of grounding that acts used to get within a few weekends of stepping onto a stage.

We are talking about the ones that have made the final stages not the turkeys who are there to entertain the masses - all can sing and would be considerably better than the dross that does the Working Mens circuit, add to that that some of the contestants that have auditioned this year have done the clubs and they were garbage.





Does it, are you serious, the majority of new groups that do the circuit are young and do the same songs you so easily right off as new rubbish, years of practice my backside.



you are deluded.

You are Dale Carnegie and I claim my £5

Are your piles playing up this morning ?

There are several in the "final stages" who's first experience of performing live was at the audition, there are some who will be seriously out of their depth when they are given, lets say, an Abba song (there will be an Abba round, there always is) or any other song that they've never sung along to in front of a mirror - why is that - its because they have not yet had to put together a portfolio of songs to fill an hours performance.

In fact its arguable that even the winners of the contest have never had to do that even at the christmas grand final, had Leona Lewis ever done more than three songs in a row on stage when she had a christmas number one ?

Your whole opinion is based on the fact that a young singer with hardly any previous experience (or indeed none at all) can out-perform a similar young singer who has been playing pubs and clubs for a few years.

And I'm the deluded one ?



You've swallowed the X-Factor bull in one huge gulp you big wuss.

Family Forum

Did Tony Ferrino tell you to say that?

Is it?

How many under 15's post on here?

Name them.

He did, he said Philsy "I've banned for by passing the swear filter so if you sign up again keep tabs that there are no double standards going on!"

I don't keep tabs on u-15's i'm not Gary Glitter

oh and consider yourself owned

1.6. This is site is open to people of all ages and from public places, any content posted should reflect this.
* As stated above, content not acceptable on television before the 9pm watershed is unacceptable on this site.

Point proven – Now Phil stop trying to play 'Jonny Big Potatoes' and play nice with the others.

Floydy just scrapped through

I've had a PM from him this morning complaining that someone called him "Pecker Head".

He's southstanders very own Mary Whitehouse

Who do i report your swearing to?

I may consider another ban for you if you don't remove the word "Poker" from your avatar...

Anyone you like, you could try Mr Southstander.com for instance, he's a member of the admin team, I'm sure he'd be delighted to receive one of your childish ramblings, maybe he'll even ban me and let you be the moderator around here ...

I`ve been called a Catalan fan since Sunday, who do I complain to?!

This one ok BossMan?

Thats awful, no-one should have to go through that sort of abuse

Wouldn't really call it childish, there is swearing on here every day but i got singled out

as I've proved twice today

Somebodies got sand in their vagina eh?

hang on


you used the C word on the day two other members got banned for using the same word!

who else was banned?

So project A didn't make it!

YES!