I would imagine he will be taking up the space left by Cunningham's retirement or final year on a much reduced salary.

Of the youngsters that Wigan have let go how many of these are actually taking SL by storm? There seems to be an obsession with bringing through players from the academy regardless of quality/suitability - surely the owners should be recruiting the correct standard of player regardless of their source.

There is no point wasting valuable/expensive training resources on players simply because of an obligation to field a reserve side - if the coaches do not believe the players have the potential to reach the required standard they should be moved on - harsh I agree but this is elite professional sport.

You look at some of the players in the Leeds reserve grade they are no nearer the first team than they were three years ago so why are we continuing to spend valuable resource on these players?

Saints seldom let seriously talented youngsters go - their side has as home raised players as Leeds - what they do well and why they have been the most consistently successful side in the SL era is to integrate these players with the correct quality/style of overseas/British players. At the moment they appear to have a the strongest pool of youngsters coming through but they know they have to recruit quality too.

I like how the numptys assume we had the god given right to sign him and that its all GH fault that he chose saints over us.

They don't.

Do you think we recruited well over the last close season?

Looks like the Giants have signed Fa'alogo news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 049353.stm

Looks like the Giants have signed Fa'alogo news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 049353.stm

Eastwood for Ellis
Ambler for Scrutton
Buderus to compliment Diskin

Not too shabby

if eastwood were here that might help.
ambler is for the future,we needed a ready made prop

buderus is a quality signing

Quote ="leicester_rhino"Looks like the Giants have signed Fa'alogo news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 049353.stm'" Not really seen much of him - any good ?? Giants have made some good signings haven't they - they're definately on the up. Shame most of em are overseas players though

Quote ="leicester_rhino"Looks like the Giants have signed Fa'alogo news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 049353.stm'" Not really seen much of him - any good ?? Giants have made some good signings haven't they - they're definately on the up. Shame most of em are overseas players though

Completeley irrelevant

Has Soliola got his visa yet?

If the eastwood deal had gone through i think it would of been.
That was taken out of our hand's and now we have this squad(for the time being) to support and get behind.
Whatever the reasons this is the hand we have been dealt and despite what many detractor's think there is enough quality imo to retain another championship!
Too many "fans" think we have a god given right to win every match,sign every top player available and jump in to have a dig at GH and co without knowing the FULL details of what's happeneing behind the scene's.
Afterall GH along with caddick have built this club from almost oblivion to where we are now.
They have delivered 3 championship's,1 cup and 5 other finals, a new carnegie stand,graham murray,tony smith and bluey mclennon.
On the playing side we have seen the like's of Harris,Godden,Glanville,carroll,senior,donald,Webb,peacock and buderus to name a few.
All the talent that the acadamy has produced.
I agree there have been disappointment's along the way,i.e lance,clyde,mullins and ben walker to name a few.
Seriously do you honestly think that GH and caddick are doing nothing to keep improving the squad and club????
Let's just wait and see where we are in september,if we have another 2006 so be it bang yer drums and rant away and do the "told you so" post's.
To do that now make's no sense we lost the wcc and the cc match's to the better team on the day it happen's in RL and there's no evidence whatsoever to suggest another forward and another centre would have prevented that.
We still have a good chance of winning the title and i'm sure if the right deal is out there it will be done,afterall weren't the bulls supposed to be signing ellis and saint's or wigan signing Ali??

That's what everyone said about warrington!!!

+ 2 x WCC

I would jump in and help you rhinoms but your fighting a losing battle against the mighty ed.

Cheers mate!!

Kapow.

Great post

but we have had 2006 already, we saw it happen, it happened, why do we need it to happen twice in 4 years to prove they arent infallible?
why were they better? we beat a better saints side and a better melbourne side the year before, if not the losses in personel and lack of recuitment why have we gone backwards
we have a good chance yes, we would have a better chance with a decent centre and another prop,

if caddick and gh want my money, they put together the best squad they can, not the worst they can get away with,

bloody well said. I think cos we've been used to so many years of being the most under achieving club ever given our size and therefore being a laughing stock for many a year, some of our own fans are quite happy to accept a bit more underachieving...

Not at all just realistic and see the "bigger" picture!!
We don't have a right to win every match nor sign every player available plus re-underachieving this squad is still quality and good enough to win the title.

Oh yes agreed re the right to win every match. But that's not what i am saying or what smokeyta is saying. We have underacheived so far this season and there is no good reason why we should have. It's very typical of Leeds.

I am not so sure that was the point been made, and you appear to have missed it.

Unless I am mistaken the poster was saying that "paying spectators" have a right to see the best team it can put out on the field within the rules in place. We are currently below the cap (rule in place) and therefore could if desired fill that position (if someone was available) with an improved player. We have chose not to.

What is the "bigger" picture other than making it sound nice? Who mentioned anything about a right to win every match?

They'll have their work cut out to top the one you've just vented.

Feel better now.

Eastwood isn't here. We missed out on him as a result of not investigating his circumstances sufficiently.

Scruton had 4 years first team under his belt. Ambler is one for the future and not ahead of Burgess like Scruton was.

Again do you know what's happening behind the scene's??
As other's have pointed out we don't know the full implication's re-contract renewals or signing's for next year!!
It's easy to say we haven't spent the full cap so we should go out and sign this or that player if only it was that straight forward!!
I agree paying spectators have the right to watch the best team the club can possibly provide who say's this isn't the case???
Like i've said many time's i trust what GH is doing and his policies.
Just because we have had an average start to the season it isn't imo because we haven't signed someone,it's more to do with too many player's off form,low confidence and other teams being better than us on the day.
There's nothing to suggest that the club aren't trying to improve the squad just because we haven't announced any signing's doesn't mean there isn't any or that they aren't aware of what needs doing to continue the club improving.

I do mate, i just think the power's that be deserve a little more faith than many are showing!!

it is that straight forward, it really is

if it is, the step backwards we have taken this year highlights incompetancies somewhere in the organisation

you trust GH all you like, ill trust what i see

and why are these teams now better than us, why do we look soo far behind saints this year?

nobody has said it does,