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| Quote ="mutley cat"no a forward pass is one player passing it to another player forward hence the emphasis on the word forward , a knock on is well a knock on ie projecting the ball in a uncontrolled manner in a forward direction .'"
You evidently dont have the thought capacity for this.
If a player goes to catch it and knocks it forward and another player catches it its a knock on. However it has also been an unintentional forward pass.
You are no smarter than an incredibly stupid 10 year old.
HTH
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| Quote ="Longun"What happened last night is over. Leeds lost and will get on with the next task of playing Salford.
Do Leeds fans really want to see us win every week, get every 50/50 decision, never drop balls, never get sin binned? never get panalised...etc etc?
So called dodgy decisions do happen. If you can't accept it, go watch a sport where contentious decisions don't happen due to 3,000 refs, where a 60 minute game takes 5 hours!!!
It's sure embarrassing being a Whino when we lose.'"
No definatley not. Some of us are making the rest of us look like Stains fans!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Two eight-page (so far) threads criticising the decisions is the sort of thing people on here used to play hell with us over on the neo-Southstander known as RAB for doing! '"
Seems to me that quite a bit of those eight page threads are taken up with 'some' Leeds fans correcting and trying in vain to educate the other Leeds fans unhappy with some of the calls.
Not sure that point is coming across in your general condemnation of the fan base here.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Seems to me that quite a bit of those eight page threads are taken up with 'some' Leeds fans correcting and trying in vain to educate the other Leeds fans unhappy with some of the calls.
Not sure that point is coming across in your general condemnation of the fan base here.'"
Yup, fair call, and I'm more than happy to clarify. I was not in any way seeking to "condemn" the general fan base. Far from it - probably more sensible RL fans on this board - amongst the old hands, anyway - than most others.
I've been around on Southstander for long enough to spot a fekkwit with my eyes shut - so yes I am happy to agree its down to a few stubborn but misguided flat-earthers. I DID say "one or two on here", in my post, after all?
I hope some will bear that in mind too, when looking in with incredulity on the drivel coming from some of our own flat-earthers on RAB!
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| Quote ="King Monkey"You evidently dont have the thought capacity for this.
If a player goes to catch it and knocks it forward and another player catches it its a knock on. However it has also been an unintentional forward pass.
You are no smarter than an incredibly stupid 10 year old.
HTH'"
a pass is intentional a knock on is unintentional and if a player who is in front of that player picks the ball up then it would be penalised for offside because of the intent of the reciving player . but hey don't let facts cloud your judgment . 4/10
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| We were poor, the ref wasn't. He made some calls that most miss. People spend hour after hour writing thread after thread criticising the refs for their performance (although some are less keen to cast that critical eye over our squad and coaching staff at the moment) and when one (or two) of their number spot a little-known infringement, they're the ones at fault?
We are poor at the moment when compared to our recent standards. End of the world? No.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"a pass is intentional
a knock on is unintentional and if a player who is in front of that player picks the ball up then it would be penalised for offside because of the intent of the reciving player . but hey don't let facts cloud your judgment . 4/10'"
All this talk of getting old
It's getting me down my love
Like a cat in a bag, waiting to drown
This time I'm comin' down
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| Quote ="King Monkey"All this talk of getting old
It's getting me down my love
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This time I'm comin' down'"
The drugs dont work Danny... stay off them!
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"The drugs dont work Danny... stay off them!'"
Can I transfer from the paracetamol and get some of what mutley cat is on? They're hallucogenic and make you talk in riddles or simply repeat what someone just said but make you argue it anyway.
Thats the sum of his posts on this board the last few days.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Can I transfer from the paracetamol and get some of what mutley cat is on? They're hallucogenic and make you talk in riddles or simply repeat what someone just said but make you argue it anyway.
Thats the sum of his posts on this board the last few days.'"
TBF I feel like I have been repeating the same stuff to the majority over that period of time. It's like banging your head against a brick wall (or in Damo's case just a brick) trying to get through to them.
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| i would love to see a try scored from a scrum that gets refered and the vid ref chalk it off for feeding!! that would be a thred really worth having!! or maybe not
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"TBF I feel like I have been repeating the same stuff to the majority over that period of time. It's like banging your head against a brick wall (or in Damo's case just a brick) trying to get through to them.'"
So... please explain exactly why Burrow's try was disallowed – I believe it was something to do with a Frenchman, a Kiwi and a failed attempt to retract appropriately.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"So... please explain exactly why Burrow's try was disallowed – I believe it was something to do with a Frenchman, a Kiwi and a failed attempt to retract appropriately.'"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"i would love to see a try scored from a scrum that gets refered and the vid ref chalk it off for feeding!! that would be a thred really worth having!! or maybe not'"
...or the same scenario from an incorrect PTB (which, by the rule book, 99% of them are these days)
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| Quote ="King Monkey"All this talk of getting old
It's getting me down my love
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This time I'm comin' down'"
great comeback , but at least you've been educated a little
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"...or the same scenario from an incorrect PTB (which, by the rule book, 99% of them are these days)'"
Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.'"
How many of them are ignored in a match???
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| I'm more concerned that on Friday the Ref was telling he Video Ref what to do, rather than asking his advice.
IMO Smith used the 'big screen' to confirm Webb was offside and then told Halibut to declare 'No Try' and then late in the game told Halibut it was a knock on. IMO if a knock on is caught in front by a player from the same side, it's a forward pass, and you cannot rule against that using Video.
Anyway, we lost. Bulls won their cup final.
No more discussions from me re the loss.
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| Quote ="Longun"I'm more concerned that on Friday the Ref was telling he Video Ref what to do, rather than asking his advice.'"
Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?
Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?
Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?
Just curious...
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.'"
I stand corrected big fella.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.'"
I didn't know that either (or if I did I forgot) - thanks for that - one less chance for me to make a fool of myself in future
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| Can't be bothered going through ten pages, but in regard to leeds being robbed, put it down to karma. I'm sure you all remember the cardiff incident.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?
Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?
Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?
Just curious...'"
I'd love to answer all your questions, but I refer you to the last statement in my post....sorry.
Anyway, I don't really take much interest in the weekly rounds until around September, and clearly neither do the Leeds players. MacNamara has done a fine job though, getting his players to peak at Easter
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?
Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?
Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?
Just curious...'"
I tell you whats curious, the amount of time you are spending on this forum, it must be 18 months - 2 years since you spent this much time on here!!
Now I aren't Sherlock Holmes but could it be something to do with the fact that the Bulls beat their local rivals for the first time over that period?
Answers on a postcard to:
We won our Cup Final,
Seasons over,
Play Offs,
I doubt it.
TIA
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