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| Quote ="KaeruJim"With +1 good prop we would be contenders I think - injuries allowing.
We seem to have thin cover at prop and half back at the moment in particular. We could do with a few more pushing through the Academy in those positions.
The exciting thing for us is just how much improvement remains in so many of the first team. Walker, Newman, Mik, Tommy, & Cam all have significant improvement in them, plus of course the next wave coming through.
Tindall showed glimpses of brilliance last year, he obviously needs to work on his D and particular his positioning, but he is a real prospect. We know about O'Connor (I'm still to be convinced there but he has a good attitude), Walters, and now Edwards and Gannon. Really hope Broadbent can step up too, great lad with talent but he's a classic centre for me.
Anyway a really solid pre-season is just what we need with such a young side; gives us time to get structures into the side and really work on the physicality and fitness the young lads need.'"
With one good prop we would be a contender ?
What do you mean by a contender ?
We are a long way off Saints and Wigan
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"With one good prop we would be a contender ?
What do you mean by a contender ?
We are a long way off Saints and Wigan'"
I think we are heading in the right direction but yeah on a week to week basis we are still a bit off Saints and Wigan tho we can match them in a one off game.
Lads like Levi and Gannon are still kids.
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| Yeh, it’s great to see that we’ve got an exciting young crop.
They won’t all make it, but if 3 or 4 do, then that’s a great platform.
But we can’t possibly go into next season expecting to challenge Saints & Wigan with the current squad.
We still need a prop to replace Ava, possibly 2, but we could live with one.
Agree, Cam Smith needs games and needs to know what is his position - neither are his fault.
Walker staying fit worries me. Hopefully as he matures physically, he’ll be ok, but I desperately hope he’s not another Ward in terms of injuries.
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| For me we need at least 1 top class Prop a decent 6 & an explosive BR.
Then we may be contenders with our best 21/22 players available the squad imo is still carrying too many players who arent up to been top 3 & GF contenders.
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| Our first 13 a good and can challenge anyone but that won’t win titles. Our depth isn’t good enough yet and the 13 needs 2 to 3 quality acquisitions to really get back on top. One more good prop, class 6 and wing for me.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Our first 13 a good and can challenge anyone but that won’t win titles. Our depth isn’t good enough yet and the 13 needs 2 to 3 quality acquisitions to really get back on top. One more good prop, class 6 and wing for me.'"
Totally agree.
Match day 17 if all fully fit can probably match anyone on their day.
But to challenge top 2 needs strength in depth and consistency week in week out.
We don’t have that yet.
A quality prop and a squad prop, a quality 6 and a speedy wingman.
Then we can talk about challenging Saints and Wigan.
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| Good news. Coming over with prior but when is prior coming back?sometime feb by the sound of it.
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| We got the squad to win this thing next year. All depends on timing, and luck on injury front. Funny think we're 'miles behind' Saints or Wigan at all. We have some top class players, who's get in any team in SL.....
We are also a United team.....
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| Not enough pace in the team IMO. Our backline must be one of the slowest in SL.
How many long-distance tries did we concede last season? A hell of a lot more than we scored. Handley is the only one who can do it, which makes it easier to telegraph and stop our longer range moves.
Back in the day most of our backline could go the length, and we had pacier half-backs who were better at supporting and making half-breaks.
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| We’re in better shape than we’ve been for a few years. We’re miles off being good enough to win it this year.
Both things can be true at the same time...
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| The side is on the up. The young lads should be getting better all the time. I really think Tet will be a good signing. He’ll have real responsibility as a pack leader at Leeds which I reckon he’ll thrive on. Exactly what Tommy and Mik need to see to help them kick on.
If fully fit, our pack is competitive with the top sides IMO.
Halves need to stay fit but both have skill. Both have a kicking game.
Back line - we have two current Dream Team players, a previous England international, and in Newman and Walker two potential future ones.
Are we the best side on paper? No. But next year....
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| With the right additions next year, then we could compete regularly and be in contention.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"The side is on the up. The young lads should be getting better all the time. I really think Tet will be a good signing. He’ll have real responsibility as a pack leader at Leeds which I reckon he’ll thrive on. Exactly what Tommy and Mik need to see to help them kick on.
If fully fit, our pack is competitive with the top sides IMO.
Halves need to stay fit but both have skill. Both have a kicking game.
Back line - we have two current Dream Team players, a previous England international, and in Newman and Walker two potential future ones.
Are we the best side on paper? No. But next year....'" Agree with all the above.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"With the right additions next year, then we could compete regularly and be in contention.'" Providing the young players kick on we may only need two possibly even only one.
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| I’d say that unless McLelland has a breakthrough season we should be going big one someone for Stand-off. I’d also like to have another speedster on the wing.
Then it would be icing the cake if someone became available.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I’d say that unless McLelland has a breakthrough season we should be going big one someone for Stand-off. I’d also like to have another speedster on the wing.
Then it would be icing the cake if someone became available.'" For Stand off I would try and get Connor I just think he would work great with Gale. I doubt wing will be even on the agenda but if it was I do like Johnstone who I'm told would happily play for Leeds.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"The side is on the up. The young lads should be getting better all the time. I really think Tet will be a good signing. He’ll have real responsibility as a pack leader at Leeds which I reckon he’ll thrive on. Exactly what Tommy and Mik need to see to help them kick on.
If fully fit, our pack is competitive with the top sides IMO.
Halves need to stay fit but both have skill. Both have a kicking game.
Back line - we have two current Dream Team players, a previous England international, and in Newman and Walker two potential future ones.
Are we the best side on paper? No. But next year....'"
Agree. And Walker gives us some xfactor and pace to that back line imo that’s why I’d pick him over Myler when fully fit everyday and twice on Sunday.
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| I think there’s a few rose tinted glasses going round!!
We can win it!!
No doubt Tetevano is a great signing, but we’ve lost Ava, Cuthbo, Crosby and Ward.
We’ve no idea yet how King will go.
Are we in better shape than last year?
Possibly.
Are we anywhere near Wigan and Saints?
No chance.
4th or 5th at best for me.
2-3 years if some of the young lads develop and a few good signings we may be in contention.
Some short memories of our last game being blown away by Catalans....
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| Quote ="Simmo71"I think there’s a few rose tinted glasses going round!!
We can win it!!
No doubt Tetevano is a great signing, but we’ve lost Ava, Cuthbo, Crosby and Ward.
We’ve no idea yet how King will go.
Are we in better shape than last year?
Possibly.
Are we anywhere near Wigan and Saints?
No chance.
4th or 5th at best for me.
2-3 years if some of the young lads develop and a few good signings we may be in contention.
Some short memories of our last game being blown away by Catalans....'"
I wouldnt base much on the end of last season really it was a bit crazy amount of games we had to play but i agree with you. I think injury free we can compete.
Remains to be seen how Zane settles in, hopefully well. King is an unknown, could be a master stroke could be a Vickery, who knows.
Weve 2 very young props in Mik and Tommy both great but we need big minutes from both to help replace Ava.
No doubt our team is on the up again. Win it? Hmmm not so sure. Wigan have added a fast half in Field and a world class forward in Bateman and Saints remain the team to beat for me.
We will be a well coached team with some quality and good youngsters so it will be interesting to see but the 2 teams over the hill remain the top teams at moment for me.
Wire will be good, Catalans and Hull will be ok, Cas should be better than last year and it will be interesting to see how Ian Watson does at Hudds i think theyve made some good signings and could go well.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"I wouldnt base much on the end of last season really it was a bit crazy amount of games we had to play but i agree with you. I think injury free we can compete.
Remains to be seen how Zane settles in, hopefully well. King is an unknown, could be a master stroke could be a Vickery, who knows.
Weve 2 very young props in Mik and Tommy both great but we need big minutes from both to help replace Ava.
No doubt our team is on the up again. Win it? Hmmm not so sure. Wigan have added a fast half in Field and a world class forward in Bateman and Saints remain the team to beat for me.
We will be a well coached team with some quality and good youngsters so it will be interesting to see but the 2 teams over the hill remain the top teams at moment for me.
Wire will be good, Catalans and Hull will be ok, Cas should be better than last year and it will be interesting to see how Ian Watson does at Hudds i think theyve made some good signings and could go well.'"
Agree.
Wigan, Saints top 2.
Wire third - they’ve made good signings. I think Inglis will do some damage.
Then I think it could be a good battle between us, Cats, Hudds, Hull and Cas for 4th.
Injuries and how new signings go will play a part at all clubs.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"I think there’s a few rose tinted glasses going round!!
We can win it!!
No doubt Tetevano is a great signing, but we’ve lost Ava, Cuthbo, Crosby and Ward.
We’ve no idea yet how King will go.
Are we in better shape than last year?
Possibly.
Are we anywhere near Wigan and Saints?
No chance.
4th or 5th at best for me.
2-3 years if some of the young lads develop and a few good signings we may be in contention.
Some short memories of our last game being blown away by Catalans....'" I may have missed them but i havent read anyone saying we'll win it.I think 3rd or 4th is realistic.We have a young squad who should be better this season.I think Tommy will go well now he's had his hand operated on.A lot will depend on how Tetevano settles its always a gamble but the odds should be in our favour.King who knows but he's a good age and on a one year contract i'm sure he'll be busting a gut to impress.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"I may have missed them but i havent read anyone saying we'll win it.I think 3rd or 4th is realistic.We have a young squad who should be better this season.I think Tommy will go well now he's had his hand operated on.A lot will depend on how Tetevano settles its always a gamble but the odds should be in our favour.King who knows but he's a good age and on a one year contract i'm sure he'll be busting a gut to impress.'"
We were decimated by injuries end of last season, and other squads were pretty healthy. If we make top 4 (sick we c should with some to spare, then course we can win it. CC was probably the harder trophy to win lost year as season descended into a farce. I feel more confident then I have for a couple of years that we can do something again...
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| Field in at Wigan - Ok but can he defend? Looks lightweight to me and I’d be throwing bodies down his channel (so to speak). People look at highlights reels which only show a) best bits and b) going forward.
How anyone can mention Crosby as a loss, or Ward after last year, I don’t know. Cuthbo was past his best by a couple of years. Ava is a loss.
We got beaten up by Cats last year, literally. The ref allowed it and we were also shot with the schedule.
I don’t think the 2021 Leeds will be as easy to bully.
I am confident we will be better this year than last - yes it’s incremental, no we might not be top of the tree but people always struggle to see past the season just gone when predicting.
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| Field is the Aussie Ryan Hampshire, electric pace, but lacks the required skill set to elite.
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