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| Quote ="ant1"That's the problem we don't want to be in the Championship!!
Sir Kevin Sinfield, great skipper but hasn't got the credentials to sort this mess out.'"
He has been in the role (and normt the one he has been emplyed to do!) for 3 months he has dome the job of keeping us up now lets see how he goes, this was never a quick fix appointment if were scrapping around at the bottom in 2 years it will be a different matter
Are the same people calling for his head the same that called for mcdermotts head in 2011?
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Tough job ahead for Sinfield. As he said it's ok getting rid of a load of players but if the ones coming in are not much better, we are still going to struggle. The last thing we need is 3 year contracts given to players who are not up to the job. He obviously couldn't say to the press everything he wanted to but you can't just get rid of players under contract.
JJB is coming to the end of a great career and been out of contract is easy to release, but if all the players on display last night were out of contract im sure there were others Sinfield would release before JJB.'"
I agree with you and I fail to understand why the main talk is to first get rid of three of our most experienced players whose work rate and enthusiasm has not diminished. Yes JJB, Ablett and Delaney are past their best but as squad members, perhaps with less playing minutes, they still have a part to play and perform better than the likes of Ferres, Thompson and Peteru who is now being played as a second rower. Ward is injured for more time than not and Cam Smith is he only youngster ready for more minutes so even with new recruits we need experienced squad men to rotate.
IMO opinion our main problem is up front and we should start with at least 2 maybe 3 props as our ageing back rowers too often have to do the work of the front rowers. This does not mean we should not recruit a big fast hard running back rower if we can.
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| This performance and previous ones remind me of the time when Schofield was causing unrest in the dressing room!something not right?
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| Quote ="malcadele"This performance and previous ones remind me of the time when Schofield was causing unrest in the dressing room!something not right?'"
I really don’t think it is just a coincidence things really to pot since Ferres arrived. Not fully that, but I am sure a factor.
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| JJB, Delaney, Walters, mullally ,handley should be nowhere near a contract for next year. we'll keep them all and people will wonder why we will struggle again next year.time to be ruthless
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| Handley already had a contract for next year, and the year after I think.
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| Quote ="ant1"That's the problem we don't want to be in the Championship!!
Sir Kevin Sinfield, great skipper but hasn't got the credentials to sort this mess out.'"
How do you know this?
The proof will be in the pudding. I believe Sinfield has a ruthless streak in him that will able him to make any decision necessary for the good of the club.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"So negative on last tackle rolling into touch or worse dead. It’s garbage to watch. Get cheque book out for a proper stand off'"
I've been saying this all season, can't believe how many fans applaud when we do this. You've got to try score when in an attacking position, it's as simple as that.
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| I think we’ve seen enough of Kev as a player to understand his personality type. I don’t expect he will pull punches behind closed doors.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"JJB, Delaney, Walters, mullally ,handley should be nowhere near a contract for next year. we'll keep them all and people will wonder why we will struggle again next year.time to be ruthless'"
I agree but all here next season
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| yep. add Sutcliffe to that list too
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| Quote ="Holmes"I've been saying this all season, can't believe how many fans applaud when we do this. You've got to try score when in an attacking position, it's as simple as that.'"
Couldn't agree more. Slowing the game down by drilling a ball into touch was exactly what Toronto wanted us to do last night and yet people was applauding.
Why on last tackle do we hand the ball over near opponents line? opposition then have 6 tackles to get downfield, you can drop the ball onto your foot and let opposition dive on it and then they only have 5 tackles. just amateurish coaching methods and that is game wide.
Our kicking game last night was absolutely shocking.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Couldn't agree more. Slowing the game down by drilling a ball into touch was exactly what Toronto wanted us to do last night and yet people was applauding.
Why on last tackle do we hand the ball over near opponents line? opposition then have 6 tackles to get downfield, you can drop the ball onto your foot and let opposition dive on it and then they only have 5 tackles. just amateurish coaching methods and that is game wide.
Our kicking game last night was absolutely shocking.'"
I actually agree in general but disagree about last night, we had a job to do and that unfortunately was not to lose by a big score, negative tactics were the right ones IMO
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Couldn't agree more. Slowing the game down by drilling a ball into touch was exactly what Toronto wanted us to do last night and yet people was applauding.
Why on last tackle do we hand the ball over near opponents line? opposition then have 6 tackles to get downfield, you can drop the ball onto your foot and let opposition dive on it and then they only have 5 tackles. just amateurish coaching methods and that is game wide.
Our kicking game last night was absolutely shocking.'"
I actually agree in general but disagree about last night, we had a job to do and that unfortunately was not to lose by a big score, negative tactics were the right ones IMO
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Couldn't agree more. Slowing the game down by drilling a ball into touch was exactly what Toronto wanted us to do last night and yet people was applauding.
Why on last tackle do we hand the ball over near opponents line? opposition then have 6 tackles to get downfield, you can drop the ball onto your foot and let opposition dive on it and then they only have 5 tackles. just amateurish coaching methods and that is game wide.
Our kicking game last night was absolutely shocking.'"
I actually agree in general but disagree about last night, we had a job to do and that unfortunately was not to lose by a big score, negative tactics were the right ones IMO
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I think we’ve seen enough of Kev as a player to understand his personality type. I don’t expect he will pull punches behind closed doors.'"
You're probably right though getting rid is probably easier than getting decent replacements. I'd imagine any fannying around with short-term contracts for the decrepit is to cover the all too-likely scenario that we can't actually persuade anyone a great deal better to sign up.
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| Quote ="christopher"He has been in the role (and normt the one he has been emplyed to do!) for 3 months he has dome the job of keeping us up now lets see how he goes, this was never a quick fix appointment if were scrapping around at the bottom in 2 years it will be a different matter
Are the same people calling for his head the same that called for mcdermotts head in 2011?'"
Get your head out of Sinfield's crapper ffs
Sinfield has kept them up? WOW what an amazing achievement barely scraping past the garbage of super League and 2nd tier part time clubs.
Leeds have stayed up despite the lord Jesus Kev, not because of him.
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| Quote ="christopher"I actually agree in general but disagree about last night, we had a job to do and that unfortunately was not to lose by a big score, negative tactics were the right ones IMO'"
Content with a home defeat to a mediocre championship team. Job done!
You're on another planet.
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| Quote ="Parkside Freddie"Get your head out of Sinfield's crapper ffs
Sinfield has kept them up? WOW what an amazing achievement barely scraping past the garbage of super League and 2nd tier part time clubs.
Leeds have stayed up despite the lord Jesus Kev, not because of him.'"
Leave the actual discussion to the adults please
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| Quote ="Parkside Freddie"Content with a home defeat to a mediocre championship team. Job done!
You're on another planet.'"
If it means I’m not on the same planet as you im happy
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| Quote ="christopher"Leave the actual discussion to the adults please'"
You mean fawning lickspittles?
Honestly I bet if you caught Sinny in bed with your Mrs you'd tuck him in and make him a full English in the morning.
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| Is there an ignore function on this site?
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| Quote ="christopher"Is there an ignore function on this site?'"
C'mon mate he's been sat patiently since 2003 to wet his pants so let him have his moment now it's finally here.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"C'mon mate he's been sat patiently since 2003 to wet his pants so let him have his moment now it's finally here.'"
Not according to Chrissy boy, everything is just champion and lord Kev is working wonders.
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| Whilst Freddie is clearly on the wind up - there is an element of truth in what he's saying.
We've got a full-time super league squad, who were crowned champions less than a year ago, yet we've made a struggle of surviving the middle 8s against the worst SL sides, Championship sides full of failed super league players and part timers.
Yes Sinfield can't really be blamed for being in the position we are, but things have not improved either since he and Lowese arrived, I'd argue they've gone backwards at a greater speed than they were. Granted they set their goal on survival, but it's still a terrible showing during their tenure all the same.
I'm not saying we should bin him off, but it's far from a good start. This off season and subsequent recruitment is HUGE - another year like this one and we'll be in Bulls type of risk territory, people will stop paying their hard earned.
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