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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Rhyse Martin new Captain for me
Has anyone held the title of club captain for a shorter period of time than Trent Merrin?'"
I would agree with Martin.
Ward who knows how many games he’ll play.
Sutty, whoever suggested him has clearly never met the lad ( though very useful bench player, and team member.)
Prior- outside bet, but not a bad shout.
Gale , allow him to concentrate on playing well and still in recovery phase. Will need 3 months to get back to the player he was .
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| Gale would seem the most sensible option for me. Ideally Ward would be made captain but we all know the issues there.
Seen very little to suggest any of the others are captain material.
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| Maybe they'll try several as captain in first few games ?
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| Forgot about Martin but yes that is a good shout with Gale as VC.
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| Can i ask what people have seen in Martin to make him captain??? I thought he played ok for us, no more than that really, and his goalkicking is major upgrade on what we had but i cant say ive seen much in terms of leadership or motivation from him.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Can i ask what people have seen in Martin to make him captain??? I thought he played ok for us, no more than that really, and his goalkicking is major upgrade on what we had but i cant say ive seen much in terms of leadership or motivation from him.'"
captained png to beat the lions as did boycotts granny
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"captained png to beat the lions as did boycotts granny'"
She did it in her pinny though. I hope Rhyse didnt.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Can i ask what people have seen in Martin to make him captain??? I thought he played ok for us, no more than that really, and his goalkicking is major upgrade on what we had but i cant say ive seen much in terms of leadership or motivation from him.'"
He already captains his national side, experienced player, went well for us last year, will play long minutes
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"He already captains his national side, experienced player, went well for us last year, will play long minutes'"
Experienced player hes hardly played any 1st grade rugby. He captains PNG cos hes ome of only a few to have played in NRL. Dont really see any credentials for being Leeds captain. That said there isnt many others that i see it in either.
We will see who gets the job. Be interesting to see. Gale or Ward for me.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Experienced player hes hardly played any 1st grade rugby. He captains PNG cos hes ome of only a few to have played in NRL. Dont really see any credentials for being Leeds captain. That said there isnt many others that i see it in either.
We will see who gets the job. Be interesting to see. Gale or Ward for me.'"
Has to be Ward, and Gale as vice captain.
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| I think Ward he does come across as a level headed young man
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Has to be Ward, and Gale as vice captain.'"
I’d agree if he could finally get over his injury problems. I think Agar will go down the route of a ‘leadership’ group again of which Ward and Gale will be two, Cuthbo probably a 3rd
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Has to be Ward, and Gale as vice captain.'"
Pointless until he's played at least 75% of a season.
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| In other circumstances id say ward but theres got to be the concern that he just needs to focus on his own game and wellbeing.
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| Quote ="Seth"In other circumstances id say ward but theres got to be the concern that he just needs to focus on his own game and wellbeing.'"
I'd agree with this - he simply hasn't been physically available on a consisent enough basis to be on field captain.
This bit will get me hammered (and probably rightly so), but I also don't think someone with such mental health struggles would be the best fit as Captain in an RL environment, for a number of reasons. Firstly, the added responsibility and expectation could just add to his pressures (though I accept only he would know this) - but he has perviously spoke about the weight of expectation and struggling with being out injured - if he's also captain and gets another long term injury, the added pressure certainly won't help.
I also know that whilst society as a whole (and particularly RL circles) have come a long way with regards to the whole stigma around mental health, I still think there are people who we see it as a weakness, even from within his own team - and I just don't think that sets the right tone. Not a view I agree with, or condone, but the harsh reality is that many people want a leader who's seen to be 'made of tougher stuff' mentally.
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| Quote ="Superted"I'd agree with this - he simply hasn't been physically available on a consisent enough basis to be on field captain.
This bit will get me hammered (and probably rightly so), but I also don't think someone with such mental health struggles would be the best fit as Captain in an RL environment, for a number of reasons. Firstly, the added responsibility and expectation could just add to his pressures (though I accept only he would know this) - but he has perviously spoke about the weight of expectation and struggling with being out injured - if he's also captain and gets another long term injury, the added pressure certainly won't help.
I also know that whilst society as a whole (and particularly RL circles) have come a long way with regards to the whole stigma around mental health, I still think there are people who we see it as a weakness, even from within his own team - and I just don't think that sets the right tone. Not a view I agree with, or condone, but the harsh reality is that many people want a leader who's seen to be 'made of tougher stuff' mentally.'"
As someone whos personally battled mental health issues for over 20 years id say that that battle makes you more tough if anything. Im sure his teammates have the utmost respect for how hes dealt with it and it shows strength of character to be open about it. My only issue would be for the player himself but i'd think that of any other player who'd had his injury problems, mental health problems included or otherwise.
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| Quote ="Seth"In other circumstances id say ward but theres got to be the concern that he just needs to focus on his own game and wellbeing.'"
Agree.
He clearly has the right attitude toward the game but also it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a great leader. I don’t know either way in that regard.
I’d be very tempted to do the reverse of Gotcha’s suggestion and put Gale as captain with Ward as vice-captain.
Then in 3 years time, if Ward has been successful in his own game he could step up.
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| ATEOTD we don't know the players and how they are perceived by the Coaching Staff or other team mates, apparently Ferres was very good with the other players (one ex Hidds player may say differently) and was very good with the younger players, probably the reason he was made stand in captain a few times.
Ward seems the obvious choice to me but he may not be the right choice at all.
I'm not a good judge anyway as I can remember being against Sinfield being captain at such a young age!!
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"I’d agree if he could finally get over his injury problems. I think Agar will go down the route of a ‘leadership’ group again of which Ward and Gale will be two, Cuthbo probably a 3rd'"
This should be how it is regardless of who is actually wearing the armband. We need a group of players who have the attributes of a captain.
Something that has been missing in the last couple of years.
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| Quote ="Seth"In other circumstances id say ward but theres got to be the concern that he just needs to focus on his own game and wellbeing.'"
are his issues when injured? would be my choice for captain if any possibility of remaining fit... hasn't there been times where there's a club captain and a team captain
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"are his issues when injured? would be my choice for captain if any possibility of remaining fit... hasn't there been times where there's a club captain and a team captain'"
To be honest I wasn’t really referring to his mental heath problems, I meant that would be the case for any player who’d had the run of injuries and lack of time he’s had on the field.
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| This will mean nothing but on a wikipedia page Martin is down as our captain and Ward is down as our vice captain.
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| This will mean nothing but on a wikipedia page Rhyse Martin is down as our captain and Stevie Ward is down as our vice captain.
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| Which Wiki page, it ain’t the Rhinos one or Rhyse and Stevie? Someone will have just edited it!
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