Spot on Gotcha. Couldnt agree more

What are these comments about the right man though? We have had nearly a whole season to identify the right man. Why do we need to wait another? There must be at least another 20 coaches we could just go out there and get, whom are more right than Agar is for taking us forward. They may not win the trophies, nobody can guarantee that, but they would at least challenging and taking us forward.

I appreciate what Agar has done, and I feel he deserves to still maintain his role in the club, but he is not right to stick with through another season. This club is bumbling along from disaster to disaster, and not really learning at all.

Again well bloody said. I find it infuriating personally

There are more than 20 coaches out there that are better than Agar, available and (the key one) want to come to Leeds? I personally don’t think it’s as simple as just go out and get one as you suggest.

Yeah, I'm not convinced either. I think Agar probably knows what the team needs to do but I'm not sure he can get the message through to the players, who seem to think they can play to their own plan whenever the mood takes them. Whether anyone else could do any better is a moot point but it has to be worth a go. One thing I would do is take the captaincy off Merrin who, whatever his work ethic and popularity, has been found wanting in terms of on-field direction more than once.

Are you seriously saying Leeds aren't capable of being an attractive opportunity to a top level coach?

Yes Josh, of course there is. Look at the point Furner was sacked, Sinfield came out and said they had already had 30 enquiries about taking the job, but wanted to ensure they got the right man, and therefore said they would not entertain any enquiries until then.

Who had really heard of Holbrook before he came to Saints? Not many will have heard of Price either, yet both occupy top two in the league. Then we have better coaches over here than Agar, again I am not convinced they will be winners either, but would still put up a bigger challenge. Appointing a new and improved coach is much easier than made out. Making us winners is where it becomes less easier.

I am saying I think after Furner, there’ll certainly be a few Aussie coaches that may have been on our radar which no longer fancy the risk.

Great. If that’s the case I agree with you. I didn’t realise there were 30 coaches applying for the job.

But essentially We agree on the same thing, we both don’t think agar is up to it. We just have different view on time scales. If like you say there are 30 coaches that have applied then yes let’s make a move, there must be the right man in there. All I was saying was, this appointment is massive and needs to be the right one.

I genuinely do not believe for one second that the club think Agar is right to take them forward, or Agar himself for that matter. I think it is all about money. He was already employed, and they have utilised that cost to save on additional coach cost. The playing rosta, taking up more cash than probably originally thought. They are now risking the future on the basis of money IMO, not because they see the appointment as a success.

Yeah I can buy into that.

Originally I thought agar wouldn’t want the job, a coaches job doesn’t always last long in this era, however his original role at the club could be security for him for years, why would he want to give that up

I dont think you could be further from the truth there Gotcha. In the clubs opinion Agar is a very good coach.

The club arent actively looking at the moment for a coach. An opportunity came up to speak to someone 2 week ago and Sinfield had a very informal chat with that person who expressed he really wants the job, but this came out of the blue and wasnt from an approach by Leeds.

Sinny has stated for months now that it will be reviewed at the end of the season and is therefore very non-committal at this stage. Super League survival has been the priority and rightly so.

Its Agars job to lose as it has been from the start in my opinion. As I said the club believe he is a good coach. If the club think he will be accepted by the fans I believe he will get the job full time but that is the concern for the powers that be.

Agar has asked for no distractions and that is how it is.

From what I have been told the only 2 options being looked at right now are the 2 I've mentioned but it will all be reviewed at the end of the season.

Agar came to the club for a specific role - who is now undertaking that role given he is now heading up the coaching?

In truth Sal, and in fairness to Agar, he still attends most of the 19s and 16s games home and away as he did previously so I presume he is doing that role also. However I dont know that for certain.

This stuff "all about the money" is incredible BS. Leeds have shown themselves willing to spend huge amounts of cash this season and will again for the right coach.

However if, as the club believes, this is a multi-year turnaround project, you need a club-building coach, not a top of the league coach. A Brian McClennan-type coach would be a disaster in this scenario whereas an Agar-style coach may be the right pick for a couple of years.

There is a huge difference between having an high opinion of him, and him been right to take us forward. He was brought in specifically to do a job, because of that high opinion, and they were right on it. That job he should continue to do. To be the head coach though and take us forward requires far more, and he is not right for that, they would be completely wrong to go there.

These people running this are not stupid. They are simply taking risks, because of the money tied up on the playing rosta, and saving it on the coaching. I don’t believe for one second they are truely doing that from choice.

He won’t be accepted anyway by fans, so if you were correct, they are gambling anyway.

You have no evidence for this whatsoever.

By what standard are they suggesting Agar is a good coach - against other British coaches e.g. Watson, Chester or against Holbrook who schooled him once again on Thursday.

If results improve he'll be accepted.Ive said before unless we can get a Grade A coach it's too risky to swap like for like.I disagree about saving money I think the club would move for a coach if they feel that's the right thing to do.At the end of the day we are outsiders looking in and have no idea what goes on the coaching side and day to day of running the club.A month ago I was speaking to an ex player coached by Agar and he couldn't speak high enough of him.

fact is he may be popular but he has hardly been a success wherever he has coached. he's a good stand in. that's all

Ian Watson should be our primary target.

He's hardly had a club that he could have success at.

Not sure there is any evidence the club is being stingy financially, far from it to be honest.

I am not sure I said that did I? I said as a result of the extra on the playing rosta.

I think you implied that well that's how I took it.