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| If Eastwood is anywhere near fit he'll play.
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| Even without Peacock that is a very dtrong team with a very strong looking bench. For me Eastwood has to play, caused Wire no end of trouble last time out, and is a potential gamebreaker. He will also have 3 games match practice behind him, hopefully we'll see improvement again from him tonight.
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| A lot of reference gets made to the "big" Warrington pack, yet IMO their back row (Solomona apart) is no bigger and equally as mobile as their potential Leeds equivalents. It's not in Warrington's interest to turn the game into an arm-wrestle down the middle by any means.
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| probably stating the obvious but we need massive games from Ryan and Kylie.
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| Quote ="Frosties."IMO will be:
17. Ian Kirke/24. Luke Ambler/15. Greg Eastwood'"
You've actually cheered me up.
All the talk about Burgess and Peacock missing yet still out team on paper would have to lose one of either Kirke or Eastwood. It's encouraging our team has such strength in depth.
I also think Lee Smith will play instead of Donald though, rightly or wrongly. I just get that impression.
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| Quote ="finglas"But you were suggesting using Sinfield at 9, not keeping him at 13.'"
I was saying Sinfield (at 13 for most of the match) could cover for Buderus when he is off for a short (I hope) rest. Clarkson would then drop back to 13. So Burrow stays at 7
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| (touch wood) looks like we got through tonight without any new injury concerns.
Guess that means the wembley line up will be the same as tonight but with someone making room for Ablett...
...Kirke would be the unfortunate 18th man for me.
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| Quote ="Frosties."IMO will be:
1 Brent Webb
28 Lee Smith
3 Brett Delaney
4 Keith Senior
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
7 Rob Burrow
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
16 Ryan Bailey
11 Jamie Jones Buchanan
27 Chris Clarkson
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Matt Diskin
12 Ali Lauitiiti
18 Carl Ablett
15. Greg Eastwood
2. Scott Donald
17. Ian Kirke'"
edited for accuracy imo...
Smith and eastwood won their places in the squad tonight imo.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"(touch wood) looks like we got through tonight without any new injury concerns.
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I hope so, but does anyone know what happened to Bailey? Went off very early never to return, unless my eyes were deceiving me.
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| Quote ="GCM1980"I hope so, but does anyone know what happened to Bailey? Went off very early never to return, unless my eyes were deceiving me.'"
I think he played about the 1st half hour but never came back. There is mention of a slight injury in the SS.com match report but nothing that will be a problem next week. I think he's just been wrapped in cotton wool after JP's injury so he can take on the role of pack leader successfully
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| Was anyone else very dissapointed with Burrow tonight or was it just me?
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| Quote ="GCM1980"I hope so, but does anyone know what happened to Bailey? Went off very early never to return, unless my eyes were deceiving me.'"
He was kept off as a precaution according to Smithy ,he said his hamstring felt a little tight but the match report on SS says thigh tweak.
Either way he'll definately be fit for next week.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Was anyone else very dissapointed with Burrow tonight or was it just me?'"
In what way J?
FWIR many passes went to ground but they were as much from Mags,Sinny,Ali etc etc as they were Rob although the intercept he threwas awfull.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Was anyone else very dissapointed with Burrow tonight or was it just me?'"
I thought he was overshadowed by McGuire and Webb who both through some passes tonight that were sheer class, admittedly against a very poor side.
I did thoroughly enjoy Burrow's defensive work tonight as he dumped 2 or 3 uch bigger players on their backs with perfect tackling technique
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| I just felt a little let down by his performance again with ball in hand. He holds onto it too long and seems to lack direction. When he does pass the ball it seems to travel slower than when the other playmakers pass. Maybe it's just me and my public dislike of him. It might be starting to cloud my judgement on his performances.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"I just felt a little let down by his performance again with ball in hand. He holds onto it too long and seems to lack direction. When he does pass the ball it seems to travel slower than when the other playmakers pass. Maybe it's just me and my public dislike of him. It might be starting to cloud my judgement on his performances.'"
I think it was a game that was over after 20 minutes and we tried to score on almost every set which made it a bit of a scrappy game especially 2nd half.
In his defence once or twice his runners over-ran him so he had to hold the ball.
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| just watching on the old tube
[i World Club Challenge - Biff - Perry vs Peacock [/i
This is one of the reasons i like JP, his love of all things down under. Still gutted he's not playing and that the fat overrated oz mercenary is.
Hopefully we'll both be in next years final too and JP gets to lead you men out.
Genuine, blood and thunder, salt of the earth RL player
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think it was a game that was over after 20 minutes and we tried to score on almost every set which made it a bit of a scrappy game especially 2nd half.
In his defence once or twice his runners over-ran him so he had to hold the ball.'"
it's not just tonight though. People over run him every week. That surely can't always be the support players error. McGuire seems to know what he's going to do before he has the ball these days and rarely let's anyone over run him. Burrow on the other hand still doesn't know what he's going to do with the ball after it's been in his hands for 5 seconds.
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| Who will Abblett come in for, tough choice for Bluey
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| Quote ="Loop"Who will Abblett come in for, tough choice for Bluey'"
Why should he come in for anyone. IMO that team last night should be the team that walks out at wembley.
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| Quote ="Loop"Who will Abblett come in for, tough choice for Bluey'"
Nobody?
I think last night's 17 will be the 17 at Wembley, if Lauititi is considered fit.
This seemed to me to be Bluey's intention as soon as I saw Donald wasn't playing and Senior was. Let the 17 hit their straps for next week, have Donald/Ablett/Ambler in reserve in case there's any injuries. Obviously missing out would be unfortunate for Carl, but he got suspended at the wrong time and it coincided with the team's best form of the season.
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| Right,
After consideration to form and our best interests this would be my team for next week.
Webb
Smith
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Burrow
McGuire
Bailey
Buderus
Leuluai
Ablett
Clarkson
Sinfield
Diskin
Jones-Buchanan
Lauiti'iti
Eastwood
Kirke
Eastwood and JJB can rotate as props and do plenty of damage. Lauiti'iti cant be left out because he's a game breaker and has started showing glimpses over the past few weeks. Clarkson cant be left out IMO and Ablett is our best 2nd row forward so he gets a place.
Burrow, as patchy as he has been, frees up McGuire to play a natural play makers game. McGuire should be 7 too because at 1st receiver he is more devastating with more time on the ball. With Burrow at 2nd receiver he has more room to work in when McGuire creates the gaps.
Kirke is the weakest link in the forwards as far as his go forward is concerned IMO. It'd be harsh I suppose to drop him but thats what happens when you have a squad as good as ours is.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Right,
After consideration to form and our best interests this would be my team for next week.
Webb
Smith
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Burrow
McGuire
Bailey
Buderus
Leuluai
Ablett
Clarkson
Sinfield
Diskin
Jones-Buchanan
Lauiti'iti
Eastwood
Kirke
Eastwood and JJB can rotate as props and do plenty of damage. Lauiti'iti cant be left out because he's a game breaker and has started showing glimpses over the past few weeks. Clarkson cant be left out IMO and Ablett is our best 2nd row forward so he gets a place.
Burrow, as patchy as he has been, frees up McGuire to play a natural play makers game. McGuire should be 7 too because at 1st receiver he is more devastating with more time on the ball. With Burrow at 2nd receiver he has more room to work in when McGuire creates the gaps.
Kirke is the weakest link in the forwards as far as his go forward is concerned IMO. It'd be harsh I suppose to drop him but thats what happens when you have a squad as good as ours is.'"
I still have reservations about leaving out Donald's pace.... on the LEFT wing (putting Smith on bench instead of Diskin)....but on the whole I have to agree. This looks our strongest 17 without Peacock.
I would still be tempted to have Kirke in over Diskin.....because for the life of me I still can't see what Diskin really offers from the bench ( we know Burrow/Sinfield can 'spell' Buderus ) ?? If there is to be no sentimentality for Donald ....we should have none for any other either surely. Tough I know. Maybe too tough.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"I still have reservations about leaving out Donald's pace.... on the LEFT wing (putting Smith on bench instead of Diskin)....but on the whole I have to agree. This looks our strongest 17 without Peacock.
I would still be tempted to have Kirke in over Diskin.....because for the life of me I still can't see what Diskin really offers from the bench ( we know Burrow/Sinfield can 'spell' Buderus ) ?? If there is to be no sentimentality for Donald ....we should have none for any other either surely. Tough I know. Maybe too tough.'"
Aye, I nearly named a team with Diskin missing and Burrow on the bench, with Sinny and McGuire in the halves and Clarkson at LF.
It's a tough choice as it is. Can you imaging how disappointed a certain few would have been if Peacock and Burgess had been fit...
Oh, BTW!!!!!
I was told by an old guy at the golf club today who sits in the NS that Peacock was jogging up the stairs to get to his seat yesterday...
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Aye, I nearly named a team with Diskin missing and Burrow on the bench, with Sinny and McGuire in the halves and Clarkson at LF.
It's a tough choice as it is. Can you imaging how disappointed a certain few would have been if Peacock and Burgess had been fit...
Oh, BTW!!!!!
I was told by an old guy at the golf club today who sits in the NS that Peacock was jogging up the stairs to get to his seat yesterday...
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I'd be tempted by the Sinfield/McGuire/Clarkson starting triangle too, with Burrow on the bench.
IF Peacock does make it (no gambles please) then BOTH Diskin and Kirke should be left out.
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