It is. I would think at least 8 weeks before he can resume playing.

Who are our best back rowers

Play Liam Sutcliffe at prop, have we tried him there yet? We can all then criticise him some more...

oh, not a joke?

Hell of a back row forming with Luke Briscoe in 2nd row for our new stand off Brad Dwyer to play with there Seth.

I want McCelland to develop and play at 6.There is no way Lui isnt going to make the team if fit.I think he can pay at 13 or go there after 20 minutes from the bench or move from 6 and bring McCelland on to 6.This is only while Smith is out.

Our pack is struggling at moment. Im not convinced a 5 foot 9 loose forward is the answer if im honest.

Seems like something Nantwichexile would concoct

Speaking of Lui, he looks leaner than he has in years in the latest training videos. It also sounds like the penny has dropped in terms of the players and the management realising that the game is quicker now, and that the conditioning is going to have to improve in order for us compete.

I look forward to seeing this experiment.

Ask yourself what qualities are important in a 13, then ask yourself if lui possesses any.

Hope this is a joke coz Lui can't tackle 18 stone blokes! Wouldn't expect him to...

Great engine - No
Strong Defence - No
Good Hands - Yes
Kicking Game - Yes
Leadership - Possibly

He could play the attacking role of a LF, but we’d be missing a fair few front up and cover tackles, which means we’d have to be dominant in possession for it to have even the slightest chance of working.

Could you do a similar thing for Dwyer playing 6 and Luke Briscoe playing 12 please???

is his defence that bad I'm not so sure. If Lui does play 6 then Mclelland doesn't get a game.

He's not that small himself at 15 stone.

i give up.

Newman at 1
Sutty in centre
Dwyer at 6
Briscoe and Koni 2nd row
Lui 13

The games changed and clearly left me behind. Ive never read such nonsense.

FFS Marty when will you keep up and learn that Halls coming back to play in the 2nd row, I think this game may well be beyond your understanding.

Given your list appears to be in priority order and the last 3 are fairly questionable skillets for lui (ie not the best as a half)/redundant in a modern 13 I think that's a resounding no.

Er Prior goes to 13, L Sutcliffe and Martin second row, Oledski, Ava, Holroyd, maybe Cuthbo rotate at prop.

Walters on bench for this one or maybe even Muizz. People ask whether he is too small but he has more go-forward and aggression than most of the established pack.

I’m pretty sure that’s what I said too.

Yeah I just embellished a few points.

6 weeks out

Problem is that could be 10 games

On a positive note, isn't it good to be missing Cam Smith? I mean, he is clearly starting to add value to the side now and establishing himself more. Very talented player in there - and I think an out and out loose forward.