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| Quote ="christopher"Hurrell, Merrin, Ava and getting rid of a waste of salary and quota in Tui for a decent half back not good signings?
Getting rid of Parcell for Lunt is not about us wanting Lunt, I know you’re not a fan of what KS is doing but we need a clearout and it’s happening and it will mean shifting quota spots and players on high salaries, I’m not sure you quite understand how difficult it will be to re set this squad. Has Sinfield made mistakes, yes, clearly Furner being the biggest, Im sure you will point to Ablett, Crosby snd JJB but you can’t blame Sinfield for them being injured and you haven’t got a clue what salaries they are on.
Parcell will be on a big salary and taking up a quota space which can be used more effectively elsewhere'"
I'm pretty certain Lunt's wage will be similar to Parcells so the saving will be for next year not this. He was our captain and in essence our marquee signing the year we got relegated and we placed our eggs in his basket. Unfortunate set of events has meant he's barely played last year and a cameo appearance this year. Will be interesting to see how he goes for you
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| Another thought on this, Lunt has signed for us but Parcell has gone on loan can he be recalled if Lunt gets injured?
And does this mean he can’t play against us?
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| Quote ="barham red"I'm pretty certain Lunt's wage will be similar to Parcells so the saving will be for next year not this. He was our captain and in essence our marquee signing the year we got relegated and we placed our eggs in his basket. Unfortunate set of events has meant he's barely played last year and a cameo appearance this year. Will be interesting to see how he goes for you'"
I'm not sure. At the time we signed Parcell we were desperate; Segeyaro had left us in the lurch and I would imagine we dangled a pretty big carrot to get Matt across here.
A good deal for both clubs in the circumstances.
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| Interesting few months ahead
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| Quote ="christopher"Another thought on this, Lunt has signed for us but Parcell has gone on loan can he be recalled if Lunt gets injured?
And does this mean he can’t play against us?'"
Both are Loan deals, hope they can play all games.
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| Quote ="barham red"Both are Loan deals, hope they can play all games.'"
Are they? Doesn’t read that way on our website?
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| Matt has been a scapegoat for the current management. He is a bloody good player. But has recently struggled with the absolute dross the club have put in front of him.
Feel bad for the guy
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Letting Parcell go to a relegation rival & getting another sick note has been better have a brilliant twist to it in our favour.
Not convinced by Sinfield whatsoever irrespective of what he inherited 1 good signing in 4/5 is shocking for a Club like ours imo.'"
He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.
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| Quote ="tenerifeRhino"He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.'"
Without any in depth knowledge on those players contracts you have no idea the reasons why but I can guess a few, and Garbutt and Keinhorst have really turned KR's season around haven't they, Garbutt has been injured and I believe Keinhorst dropped recently.
JJB this was always going to be his last year and I'm not sure you can blame Sinfield for Ablett being injured.
Parcell and Garbutt both count on our Quota which can be better utilised elsewhere.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I'm not sure. At the time we signed Parcell we were desperate; Segeyaro had left us in the lurch and I would imagine we dangled a pretty big carrot to get Matt across here.
A good deal for both clubs in the circumstances.'"
I object, I had nothing to do with it
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| Quote ="tenerifeRhino"He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.'"
Didn't Keinhorst go before McDermott left? Don't think you can blame Sinfield for that one.
In regards to Parcell, I've heard he's one of the bad influences we wanted rid of in the changing room.
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| Quote ="christopher"Without any in depth knowledge on those players contracts you have no idea the reasons why but I can guess a few, and Garbutt and Keinhorst have really turned KR's season around haven't they, Garbutt has been injured and I believe Keinhorst dropped recently.
JJB this was always going to be his last year and I'm not sure you can blame Sinfield for Ablett being injured.
Parcell and Garbutt both count on our Quota which can be better utilised elsewhere.'"
A sensible post? No... Surely not. Not having it.
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"Didn't Keinhorst go before McDermott left? Don't think you can blame Sinfield for that one.
In regards to Parcell, I've heard he's one of the bad influences we wanted rid of in the changing room.'"
He wasnt a popular team mate at Manly either IIRC. No smoke without fire.
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| Don't know what to say to people who think this is a good deal.
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| I don't think anyone is saying its good stand alone? Its more about freeing up a quota spot isn't it?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I don't think anyone is saying its good stand alone? Its more about freeing up a quota spot isn't it?'"
Unless someone is coming in now it's the most stupid deal ever. If not wait till the end of the season and don't swap a good young fit player for a old injured one with your relegation rivals. It beggars belief.
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| Then it'd be better to wait and see than condemn it today wouldn't it?
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| I don't recall anyone suggesting that Parcell was a bad influence in the squad until today?
Strange that.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"I don't recall anyone suggesting that Parcell was a bad influence in the squad until today?
Strange that.'"
That's not quite true. It was actually reported a few weeks back when the rumours came out. I have to say, he never comes across like that in anyway, but is there really no smoke without fire? the rumours say completely different to how it comes across.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That's not quite true. It was actually reported a few weeks back when the rumours came out. I have to say, he never comes across like that in anyway, but is there really no smoke without fire? the rumours say completely different to how it comes across.'"
His view of his own ability is higher than the view of the coaches at Leeds I think, that's never a good recipe.
Personally I'd say we just have to back the club in what it's doing at the moment, they know how the players are interacting and behaving, what their "extra-curriculars" might be and they know the kind of culture they want to find.
Let them make the calls and then judge them on the results.
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| You was right getting rid of Keinhorst but Garbutt is 100% one of the best in the league in his position when on the field. Rovers hope to have sorted his troublesome knee as he had a mid season op on it and has just returned from that.
As for Lunt/Parcell, let’s hope it works out well for both as both sets of fans and clubs know what the respective players can do at their best.
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| Quote ="moxi1"You was right getting rid of Keinhorst but Garbutt is 100% one of the best in the league in his position when on the field. Rovers hope to have sorted his troublesome knee as he had a mid season op on it and has just returned from that.
As for Lunt/Parcell, let’s hope it works out well for both as both sets of fans and clubs know what the respective players can do at their best.'"
I think we just lost faith in Garbutt's long-term fitness, and again he's a valuable overseas quota spot. No argument that he's one of the best props in SL when fit.
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| If Garbutt was still here and ge had just been out with a knee injury there would be cries to get rid
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| Quote ="christopher"If Garbutt was still here and ge had just been out with a knee injury there would be cries to get rid'" I don’t think there would.
Not if he had played in 3/4 of this seasons fixtures winning several mom awards. That is his record at HKR this season. Very few forwards play a full season without any problems. Ask Peteru, Crosby, Ablett, JJB and Ward to name a few.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"I don’t think there would.
Not if he had played in 3/4 of this seasons fixtures winning several mom awards. That is his record at HKR this season. Very few forwards play a full season without any problems. Ask Peteru, Crosby, Ablett, JJB and Ward to name a few.'"
On a purely playing basis I'd have kept him, but I don't see how he trains or what his conditioners think etc. Anyone who can poleaxe James Tamou gets my vote.
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