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| Quote ="Clearwing"Frank "bucket" Young...any idea how he came by that nickname? Was it the result of some prodigious drinking feat? And if so, did it match up to those of gary "bathtub" Schofield?'"
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Frank "bucket" Young...any idea how he came by that nickname? Was it the result of some prodigious drinking feat? And if so, did it match up to those of gary "bathtub" Schofield?'"
yes because he hardly ever dropped a high kick/up and under etc.
when ken thornett arrived in 1960 he was called bucket11
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Frank "bucket" Young...'"
Just to show how different the game was in that era, he broke the Leeds goal kicking record for a season with 37 in 1908/09 and scored just the 1 try in a 159 game career at Leeds. His try came V Barry at Headingley in a game where Leeds topped 50 points for the first time (56-0).
The 1910 Challenge Cup (Northern Union Cup as it was known at the time) victory was Leeds first Cup win in their history. It would be 12 more years before they added a second, a Yorkshire Cup triumph in 1922.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Just to show how different the game was in that era, he broke the Leeds goal kicking record for a season with 37 in 1908/09 and scored just the 1 try in a 159 game career at Leeds. His try came V Barry at Headingley in a game where Leeds topped 50 points for the first time (56-0).'"
Yeah, I watched that old footage of Leeds v Hunslet from the early 20th century. I can believe that there were few tries scored in those days (to be honest, the standard wasn't a lot higher than it was in the most recent 6 nations) but I'm surprised that the goal kicking record was so low.
Here's a question: which player has played most games for Leeds without scoring a single try?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Yeah, I watched that old footage of Leeds v Hunslet from the early 20th century. I can believe that there were few tries scored in those days (to be honest, the standard wasn't a lot higher than it was in the most recent 6 nations) but I'm surprised that the goal kicking record was so low.
Here's a question: which player has played most games for Leeds without scoring a single try?'"
Mathiou springs to mind before his "dummy" against Wigan away!
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| Didn't Wadell play for quite a bit before notching a four pointer?
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| very touching post and waws nice to find out more about the history of the club
would be amazing to see the rhinos win
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| POST OF THE YEAR FOR ME!!!
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"yes because he hardly ever dropped a high kick/up and under etc.
when ken thornett arrived in 1960 he was called bucket11'"
One tactic that span from the era of both 'buckets' was the full back role in helping tired forwards.
Without subs, rotation and in the days of unlimited tackles, the big forwards did tire in the heavy grounds. Thus, to give the forwards a breather, the full backs used to punt the ball to each other, sometimes for minutes at a time. This both gave the forwards a bit of a rest and attempted to force the opposition full back in to a mistake and getting them to knock on.
I can only assume that the nickname 'Bucket' came along as a result of the player in question being dependable at the back and not dropping a high punt whenever it came in their direction.
This is a ploy that Rugby Union finally abandoned about three weeks ago ....
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"So, with Wembley a couple of weeks away, things are far different for players and fans in the modern era, but as you're walking towards the arch, spare a though for the likes of 'Bucket', Billy and rest of the boys of 1910 .... It was as important to them then, as it is you now and without that win, who knows what might have happend to the club in those early years of the 20th Century. Let's hope perhaps the greatest team in history can emulate them ?'"
Not being funny, but why would I 'spare a thought' for players I've never watched or really know of, from a century ago? It just seems a wierd sentiment. When you're walking towards the arch, make sure yout think about a bunch of players from a 100 years ago, who none of us have ever seen play or know of.
And i doubt it was as important to them back then, though none of would be able to comment because it was a 100 years ago, lost in the depths of time.
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| Quote ="marcel"Not being funny, but why would I 'spare a thought' for players I've never watched or really know of, from a century ago? It just seems a wierd sentiment. When you're walking towards the arch, make sure yout think about a bunch of players from a 100 years ago, who none of us have ever seen play or know of.
And i doubt it was as important to them back then, though none of would be able to comment because it was a 100 years ago, lost in the depths of time.'"
because its what makes our great club !its the history and tradition.
Recently i went to a veteran fans forum in the "LEWIS JONES "suite and it was a night dedicated to Arthur Clues from the 40s-50s and Joe Thompson from the 20s-30s and both their families brought all their medals and memorabilia and scrapbooks and there was a picture of Fred Webster who was elderly at the time shaking hands and wishing luck to the leeds capt Joe Thompson before the 1932 cup final.
its not lost in the depths of time because its our recorded history.
you couldnt care less because you are a philistine
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| History is what makes us today unless you have the attitude of ‘history has nothing to do with me because it happened a long time ago’.
Its because of history the likes of me are allowed to roam freely in the community these days without a sign hanging from my neck warning people..
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| Quote ="marcel"Not being funny, but why would I 'spare a thought' for players I've never watched or really know of, from a century ago? It just seems a wierd sentiment. When you're walking towards the arch, make sure yout think about a bunch of players from a 100 years ago, who none of us have ever seen play or know of.
And i doubt it was as important to them back then, though none of would be able to comment because it was a 100 years ago, lost in the depths of time.'"
And maybe because of what they did then, you'll have your little day out in London ... Let's say they didn't win the 1910 final and might have happend then in history ? A Leeds rugby team went on to be a mere footnote in the history of the game ?
Can we presume that you give 'Rememberance Sunday' a miss too, because that's lost in the depths of time or you've never bothered to meet anyone from those conflicts ?
Perhaps you should be following the likes of Crusaders, who's current contribution to the game can be written several times on the back of a fag packet .... They'd give their eye-teeth for the sort of history our club has.
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| Quote ="marcel"Not being funny, but why would I 'spare a thought' for players I've never watched or really know of, from a century ago? It just seems a wierd sentiment. When you're walking towards the arch, make sure yout think about a bunch of players from a 100 years ago, who none of us have ever seen play or know of.
And i doubt it was as important to them back then, though none of would be able to comment because it was a 100 years ago, lost in the depths of time.'"
Its for comments like this that the user known as "Marcel" has his own dedicated thread of dumbfookery.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"And maybe because of what they did then, you'll have your little day out in London ... Let's say they didn't win the 1910 final and might have happend then in history ? A Leeds rugby team went on to be a mere footnote in the history of the game ?
Can we presume that you give 'Rememberance Sunday' a miss too, because that's lost in the depths of time or you've never bothered to meet anyone from those conflicts ?
Perhaps you should be following the likes of Crusaders, who's current contribution to the game can be written several times on the back of a fag packet .... They'd give their eye-teeth for the sort of history our club has.'"
Far better put than i could of done.
Good on you sir!
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| History does matter in many different guises - I adopted the wargrave of a pilot who fought and died in the Battle of Britain. Yesterday to my horror, I noticed he isnt even mentioned on his towns War Memorial. The pilot in question isnt releated to me but by God he will be remembered in this, the month he died seventy years ago.
Many memories will be there when we walk down Wembley Way towards the new arch, where once the twin towers stood. Many will remember family no longer with us who had accompanied us on our first visit there - be it to watch Leeds or some other team. The former greats of our team who gave us such happy memories (John Holmes springs to mind here!) of previous visits to this stadium who are no longer with us. Thus thoughts of previous Leeds teams that have won or lost there will come to mind, the key players and the poor performers, the memorable scores and howlers - and the sending off!
Leeds - be it the loiners or rhinos have a long and proud history and it, and all who have contributed to it should never be forgotten or dismissed as olden day twaddle and irrelevance!
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| is this marcel for real?
because if he's trolling on a thread like this its just not funny
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"And maybe because of what they did then, you'll have your little day out in London ... Let's say they didn't win the 1910 final and might have happend then in history ? A Leeds rugby team went on to be a mere footnote in the history of the game ?
Can we presume that you give 'Rememberance Sunday' a miss too, because that's lost in the depths of time or you've never bothered to meet anyone from those conflicts ?
Perhaps you should be following the likes of Crusaders, who's current contribution to the game can be written several times on the back of a fag packet .... They'd give their eye-teeth for the sort of history our club has.'"
Are you kidding me?
Rememberance sunday? you're comparing this to that? Of course I don't give it a miss, people died for our freedom. That's real, it's life and death sunshine. This is sport. And frankly no, I don't care about our history from that time, it's a 100 years ago, it can't be changed.
I'm more interested in the here and now with regards the club.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Its for comments like this that the user known as "Marcel" has his own dedicated thread of dumbfookery.'"
Is that how things work?
Opinion differing from the popular opinion = dumbfookery.
If 90 people voted conservative and 1 voted labour, is the labourite guilty of dumbfookery?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"
you couldnt care less because you are a philistine'"
No. I ''couldn't care less'' becauase i don't care about history which I personally consider unimportant, and the history of a rugby team is right up there with who invented the sport of bowls and who played the first cricket match. It just doesn't matter to me.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"History is what makes us today '"
Pray tell, what impact did a game of rugby 100 years ago have on you as a person today?
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| Quote ="marcel"Pray tell, what impact did a game of rugby 100 years ago have on you as a person today?'"
Try going to the George Hotel next to Huddersfield Station.
Oh,hang on! That particular location will be particularly lost on you,won't it?
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| Quote ="marcel"Pray tell, what impact did a game of rugby 100 years ago have on you as a person today?'"
why do you support this club ?if you really do.
just go on every club forum and tell them and i mean all of them their history dont mean a thing.
how far do you have to go back before leeds history in unimportant?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"why do you support this club ?'" Because i was born in leeds, was taken to watch games as a lad and i like the sport.
Quote ="lionarmour87"just go on every club forum and tell them and i mean all of them their history dont mean a thing'"
I never said our history means nothing.
Quote ="lionarmour87"how far do you have to go back before leeds history in unimportant? '"
I don't know, i don't have a set of parametres. 96 was my first season going to watch the games, we nearly got relegated and nearly went bust. That for me is a big moment in our history and things could have been different if it didn't turn out as well with avoiding the drop and getting new ownership.
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| Quote ="marcel"
I don't know, i don't have a set of parametres. 96 was my first season going to watch the games, we nearly got relegated and nearly went bust. That for me is a big moment in our history and things could have been different if it didn't turn out as well with avoiding the drop and getting new ownership.'"
First season was 1996?
Why am I not surprised?
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