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| Quote ="RossRhino"Exactly what I thought when I saw the squad.'"
IMO that is the best idea too. Burrow on the bench to come on as 'impact hooker'.
Great opportunity for McShane to build on his real promising start. At times like this it makes you realise how prudent it is to have the three recognised hookers signed up.....but can anybody genuinely still deny the excellence and superiority of Buderus, who really has being a towering winning influence recently ??
He WOULD regularly get the ("official"icon_wink.gif MOM if he was allowed to play the full 80 mins, I'm sure.
Looking forward to seeing, [isometimes-disappointing-in-the-past[/i, Bailey building on his recent exceptional form......and Ambler looks the ever increasing part as another integral part of the squad. Pleased for Clarkson too.
Having Ali back should hopefully make up for the loss of the outstanding Eastwood, who I'm sure is here to stay, despite the Aussie media speculation.
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| I just hope the 3 returning havent been rushed to make up for the fact Eastwood and Buderus are out.
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| I saw Burgess last saturday at Headingley & he was still wearing some type of surgical boot.
I'm not medically qualified but it would seem a risk to me to play him on Friday night.
I also agree that Burrow should come off the bench to spell McShane.
Why break up the largely successful Sinfield McGuire axis?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I saw Burgess last saturday at Headingley & he was still wearing some type of surgical boot.
I'm not medically qualified but it would seem a risk to me to play him on Friday night.
I also agree that Burrow should come off the bench to spell McShane.
Why break up the largely successful Sinfield McGuire axis?'"
Agree with all of that. Ambler has done enough to keep his place on the bench over Burgess.
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| Simple then, Ali for Eastwood and Burrow for Buderus, McShane to start, otherwise same as for the Saints game.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Simple then, Ali for Eastwood and Burrow for Buderus, McShane to start, otherwise same as for the Saints game.'"
Yep ! Sounds the biz to me
Here's hoping Smith actually plays well enough this time to stop Webb walking straight back into his full back spot when fit. He disappoints with his 'crab' running and now apparent woeful passing, but am sure he will come good.
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| I can't believe that someone that is as pedantic as this about grammar
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With your persistent inability to properly use an apostrophe and further inability to discern the difference between 'effect' and 'affect' you very often fail to do the same.'"
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Great opportunity for McShane to build on his real promising start. At times like this it makes you realise how prudent it is to have the three recognised hookers signed up.....but can anybody genuinely still deny the excellence and superiority of Buderus, who really has [u[ibeing[/i[/u a towering winning influence recently ??
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| Not sure I agree with expecting someone of Burrow's size to put in a hooker's tackling stint in their first game back after injury.
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| he wouldn't defend in the middle,he would move out wide where he normally defends
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| Burrow has started at hooker three times in his Leeds career, once for Daryl Powell in 2003 and twice for Tony Smith in 2004.
Here are a few choice snippets from the YEP match report after Burrow's full hooking debut:
[iLeeds Rhinos were today enjoying an open topped bus parade around London – to celebrate one of their best victories of the Super League era....And after coming through three games in a week with their unbeaten record intact, they've certainly earned the day off....With Gary Connolly rested, youngster Richard Mathers got his chance at full-back and responded with a superb display, highlighted by a stunning early try-saving tackle on Steele Retchless....Rob Burrow, replacing Matt Diskin at hooker, was magnificent and fellow Academy product Danny McGuire had his best full game for Leeds, capped by two crucial tries to maintain his excellent strike-rate....Barrie McDermott and Ryan Bailey provided vital go-forward....Leeds went ahead on 11 minutes when McDermott offloaded out of a tackle to Bailey and his one-handed pass was accepted by Burrow who burst through two tackles and out-paced the defence on a 40-metre diagonal run to the line....Then on 29 minutes Francis Stephenson's pass was intercepted by McGuire 18 metres from the Leeds line and he did a passable impression of a young Garry Schofield to leave the chasers stranded for the Rhinos' third touchdown....Rob Jackson got over the line but lost possession in Burrow's tackle....Academy hooker Jon Hepworth made his Rhinos debut, coming on as a late substitute.[/i
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| Quote ="finglas"I can't believe that someone that is as pedantic as this about grammar
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Oops!! sorry wheels for such an unforgivable faux pas.
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| Everyone has their own opinion but I can't wait to see Robbie in action again and in his proper position. Sinnie and DMc have done fine at halfback but I think we've missed robbies spark and speed/backing up. Can't quiet understand people wanting to play players in different positions, can understand when someone is injured but not otherwise. Also missed those shovel hands of Ali, nothing better on the field than seeing him bursting through or that fantastic offload, just hope he can steer clear of injuries for rest of season.
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| to be honest i think we have looked better with sinfield and mcguire in the halves. we have missed webb big time. you don't realise how good he is till he's not there
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| Quote ="tad rhino"to be honest i think we have looked better with sinfield and mcguire in the halves. we have missed webb big time. you don't realise how good he is till he's not there'"
I agree mate ,great to see Smithy back but Webby is different class imo.
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| Yes they've been fine, sinny would play well and give 100% in most positions but we haven't had that flowing line movement and support play, agree that webby is missed and influential in the broken play,best FB in superleague without doubt. I just think that the triangle works well with Sinny moving the forwards about and not having to create elsewhere then move back in the middle. The amount of tackling and work he does can't help but cut down his options for open play.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Oops!! sorry wheels for such an unforgivable faux pas.'"
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| Always liked Kev at 6 myself, I agree that Rob should be at hooker either starting or bench hooker for some good distribution and maybe jumping out of dummy half when they tire.
Eastwood out for 6 to 10 weeks and Buderus out for 2 to 4
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| Quote ="joshua102"Always liked Kev at 6 myself, I agree that Rob should be at hooker either starting or bench hooker for some good distribution and maybe jumping out of dummy half when they tire.
Eastwood out for 6 to 10 weeks and Buderus out for 2 to 4'"
Not sure about this as we also have the current England hooker who could also fill in there allowing rob to take up his creative role. I have a feeling that McShane will start with Burrow on the bench, When Burrow comes onyou may find Sinfield patrolling the PTB area but Burrow given licence to scoot if a quick PTB is in order.
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| Seems we are going to have one of those seasons with regard to injuries. I think if we add anything to the trophy cabinet this year it will have been done the hard way. Buderus look like he will miss the CC semi, a huge blow without him or Diskin. I guess we can just cross our fingers and hope everyone is fit and firing for the key playoff games in September.
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| Quote ="finglas"Not sure about this as we also have the current England hooker who could also fill in there allowing rob to take up his creative role. I have a feeling that McShane will start with Burrow on the bench, When Burrow comes onyou may find Sinfield patrolling the PTB area but Burrow given licence to scoot if a quick PTB is in order.'"
Losing Buderus is a real blow....let's hope this plan (or any other) now has some longevity.
Undoubtedly we've had our fair share of major injuries this season. Perhaps we should lower our expectations accordingly: can then only be all the more sweet when we do go onto win the CC and GF
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Losing Buderus is a real blow.'"
Yes, it was a real blow last season when he got injured at Wigan. We didnt win another game all season.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Yes, it was a real blow last season when he got injured at Wigan. We didnt win another game all season.'"
I'm talking about this season, dummy. Last season is history.
Surely you're not doubting the ever increasing quality Buderus has brought to the team [ithis[/i season (in contrast to the ever diminishing returns [ithis[/i season from your 'hero', Diskin) ?
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"I'm talking about this season, dummy. Last season is history.
Surely you're not doubting the ever increasing quality Buderus has brought to the team [ithis[/i season (in contrast to the ever diminishing returns [ithis[/i season from your 'hero', Diskin) ?'"
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| Of course we're going to miss Buderus, he has been playing well from the games I've seen this season. More so becaus of Diskin's injury. If Diskin had got injured later on last season we would have badly missed him as well.
With both Buderus and Diskin re-signing for next season, I would suggest that they see the benefit of having two hookers. In that I assume the club has a plan for McShane. He should have the opportunity now to show what he's capable of.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"I'm talking about this season, dummy. Last season is history.
Surely you're not doubting the ever increasing quality Buderus has brought to the team [ithis[/i season (in contrast to the ever diminishing returns [ithis[/i season from your 'hero', Diskin) ?'"
Do we REALLY have to go down the "Buderus v Diskin" path again? Has this not been done to death over and over again?! Era of the Biff actually made a very valid point, but don't let that get in the way of your inane ranting! When Buderus got injured at Wigan last year, many people (and I'll admit, myself included) feared the worst for our prospects. However, all that happened was that Diskin stepped up to the plate bigstyle, and a couple of months later we had both available trophies in the bag. I'm not saying that the same will happen this season, especially seeing as Diskin is also injured, but the experience of last year has taught me never to doubt Leeds' strength in depth - perhaps rather than labelling people who make valid points as a "dummy" you maybe ought to have a similar amount of faith?!
Oh, and whilst I'm at it, is it really necessary to have such a pop at Diskin? He has never let the side down, is Leeds through and through, and would run his blood to water for the club! He may not have been quite on Buderus' level this season, but he's still been pretty damn good in my opinion, and I'd hate to have him lining up against us!
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