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| More info from the article now i've found it.
The 256 page book will be published in paperback in the spring by Scratching Shed Publishing(Phil Caplan is a director) and will cost £13.99.
Copies can be pre-ordered by ringing 0113 2259797.(Hope this doesn't break the A.U.P)
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| Quote ="tigertot"Unfortunately John Holmes or his family will not be paying mega-bucks to have his name on it.'"
Interesting that the suggestion was that it be renamed the John Holmes South Stand.
So as much as the poster is wanting to pay tribute, they don't want to lose the South bit out of the title and just call it the John Holmes Stand?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Interesting that the suggestion was that it be renamed the John Holmes South Stand.
So as much as the poster is wanting to pay tribute, they don't want to lose the South bit out of the title and just call it the John Holmes Stand?'"
I agree Andy.
I think we should drop South from the title and make it the John Holmes Stand, new stand, new era, time for a change. In that way it does also mean that any sponsor could still be accommodated and the title made a little shorter by taking out the word 'South'. The Leeds Building Society John Holmes Stand is ok isn't it? I am not attached to the word South and not sure why anyone else would be... it is just a point on a compass!
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| Honestly, I dont think the club will lose the South part of the SS name. Simply because it is a good marketing tool and has in the past been seen on jumpers, t-shirts and coats etc.
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| If they take the south bit out of the name the Fekwits wont have a clue where to go so it can only ever be a bonus.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I agree Andy.
I think we should drop South from the title and make it the John Holmes Stand, new stand, new era, time for a change. In that way it does also mean that any sponsor could still be accommodated and the title made a little shorter by taking out the word 'South'. The Leeds Building Society John Holmes Stand is ok isn't it? I am not attached to the word South and not sure why anyone else would be... it is just a point on a compass!'"
I don't particularly mind either way about losing the 'South' bit, I would hate to see it called the 'John Holmes Stand' and then have a company name stuck in front of it.
If the club want to honour John Holmes then either re-name the stand and leave it without a corporate sponsor, or if the club need the money from the sponsor then build a statue or some other relevant honour instead.
I'm not sure why, I would just hate the honouring of a player like John Holmes to be joined in with a corporate sponsor.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I don't particularly mind either way about losing the 'South' bit, I would hate to see it called the 'John Holmes Stand' and then have a company name stuck in front of it.
If the club want to honour John Holmes then either re-name the stand and leave it without a corporate sponsor, or if the club need the money from the sponsor then build a statue or some other relevant honour instead.
I'm not sure why, I would just hate the honouring of a player like John Holmes to be joined in with a corporate sponsor.'"
Blackpool FC have that one down to an art.
In honour of Stanley Matthews, the "Pricebusters Matthews Stand" was recently renamed to the "Blackpool International Airport Matthews Stand"
Urgh!
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| Quote ="BigRob"I don't particularly mind either way about losing the 'South' bit, I would hate to see it called the 'John Holmes Stand' and then have a company name stuck in front of it.
If the club want to honour John Holmes then either re-name the stand and leave it without a corporate sponsor, or if the club need the money from the sponsor then build a statue or some other relevant honour instead.
I'm not sure why, I would just hate the honouring of a player like John Holmes to be joined in with a corporate sponsor.'"
Actually Rob, I think you might have convinced me and I think you are right. If they put a John Holmes statue close to the redeveloped stand it may start to get unofficially known as the John Holmes Stand anyway and the club could just put the name/sponsorship of the stand out as they see fit.
In response to the marketing and use of the South Stand logo/brand, it has not been used for a few years now and I would argue it was never the strongest brand anyway. I think the South Stand will be history, a well and fondly remembered one, but history none the less.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Interesting that the suggestion was that it be renamed the John Holmes South Stand.
So as much as the poster is wanting to pay tribute, they don't want to lose the South bit out of the title and just call it the John Holmes Stand?'" The memory of Joh Holmes will not pay the bilils.
I am sure there is another way to honour his memory. In the Carnegie Stand we have the Lewis Jones Suite so it can be done.
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| Personally I would love it to be The John Holmes Stand. However, when Sam Burgess is thinking of coming back to Blighty in 5 years & the Rhinos need some cash the temptation to rename it in honour of the New University Metropolitan Polytechnic Technology Yorkshire Stand will be too much.
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| There's always one clown who has to muddy the water.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Personally I would love it to be The John Holmes Stand. However, when Sam Burgess is thinking of coming back to Blighty in 5 years & the Rhinos need some cash the temptation to rename it in honour of the New University Metropolitan Polytechnic Technology Yorkshire Stand will be too much.'"
We are discussing a Leeds legend and a tribute in his honour and you come up with this.
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| Fact is , Tigertot is probably not far wide of the mark .
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Actually Rob, I think you might have convinced me and I think you are right. If they put a John Holmes statue close to the redeveloped stand it may start to get unofficially known as the John Holmes Stand anyway and the club could just put the name/sponsorship of the stand out as they see fit.
In response to the marketing and use of the South Stand logo/brand, it has not been used for a few years now and I would argue it was never the strongest brand anyway. I think the South Stand will be history, a well and fondly remembered one, but history none the less.'"
Yep like I say I don't mind if the club do need the sponsorship money from the renaming of the Stand but I think any "honour" to John Holmes should be seperate from any corporate sponsorship.
Not sure why, just like Bramleyrhino, it makes me go urgh to think of it!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We are discussing a Leeds legend and a tribute in his honour and you come up with this.
'" Lighten up. Nothing disparaging of Holmes' memory in togertots' lighthearted but, sadly, possibly accurate post.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We are discussing a Leeds legend and a tribute in his honour and you come up with this.
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Nothing wrong with what he's posted.
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| Wrong thread to make sh#t jokes on imo.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Wrong thread to make sh#t jokes on imo.'"
I thought it wasn't bad for me. If you want to look through rose tinted glasses at the running of a corporate body then fair enough. If you are prepared to let your dominant position in RL wane it's no skin off my nose. I have stated what I would like the stand called, but there's no way can or will the board be able to ignore the commercial realities of naming a stand.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We are discussing a Leeds legend and a tribute in his honour and you come up with this.
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Whats he actually said thats wrong?
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| Quote ="Wheels"Whats he actually said thats wrong?'"
I was wondering that as well ?????
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I was wondering that as well ?????'"
I thought it was a poor joke that's all.
With hindsight i may have over-reacted!
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| As has been said using the words South Stand has marketing potential even if it gets prefixed with a corporate sponsor.
I don’t think the club could honour the memory of John Holmes more than with a statue, respectful and long-lasting. I can just hear a young lad turning to his old man and saying “who’s that dad?” – his memory would be immortalised.
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| It still shocks me that he has gone.
A statue would be a fitting tribute.
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| his family will probably choose from photographs what the statue would look like and there have been some excellent pictures of John over the years
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I thought it was a poor joke that's all.
With hindsight i may have over-reacted!
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Phew, that's a relief.
I think a statue would be an ideal tribute [size=50(behind the NUMPTY stand). [/size
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