Herein lies the problem for me. There is no doubting he has done a decent job of steadying the ship, but he just seems to lack that extra confidence or edge, he almost seems scarred by previous coaching roles and is happier in the background. Less pressure.



I disagree with having a coach merely hold the reigns. If we are looking to build some foundations, then better to get the right coach in now, let him get the style of play he wants ingrained into the players, and to have a hand in recruitment.



See my previous point. Saints play with such precision and intensity they are hard to live with. When they attack, they attack as one rather than just one at a time. They flood forwards at pace and I’m numbers when they are moving the ball, making it hard to read who is the intended receiver. Defences get stretched by this. Great to watch. That’s why we have to go after a coach who can make this brand of rugby our go to style from top to bottom, so young players coming in know where they need to be, rather than just get a caretaker.

That’s all very well but is the right coach available and more importantly does he want to come to the club, that’s what I mean by not rushing the appointment, if the right coach isn’t available for next year, we should go with Agar

I hope we do have a coach lined up providing he's proven although I doubt it as I'm sure rumours of who he his would have surfaced by now.

" cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear" and this squad is looking more and more like a Sows ear.

Sinfield has had ample time to sort out the right Coaching staff if that means Agar stays then Sinfield deserves sacking.
There's no way Agar is better than Flannagan Griffin numerous assistents or Watson who imo would come if we approached him.
Irrespective of tye past 2yrs & the self unflicted Furner farce there'll be plenty of better options than Agar willing to take the job.
Getting a Team to gel & get the basics right with this squad should be a given thats all Agar has done.
Given that the Players didnt like Furner or his approach is purely on them & i hooe a lot of them are shown the door asap.
ST's didnt have to get out of 2nd gear last night to dismantle us then they cruisd through the last 15 minutes this Coach & a alot of this squad are nowhere near good enough.

You haven’t got a clue who has or hasn’t been approached

Shows what difference a good coach can make along with a couple of astute signings

Very well said

Where have i claimed to?
Its pretty straight forward in what i posted KS has had plenty of time to sort it if Agar is his choice then he's made yet another bad call & should walk.
Stumbling to 8th on pts diff from bottom 2 on points diff is hardly a Coaching masterclass.

I agree re Agar. Sinfield would be making a mistake appointing him. There's no good reason why the right man shouldn't be brought in asap once SL status is confirmed. It is not Agar, we still looked poorly coached

Baffling comment, quite the opposite really, throughout his career his number 1 weakness has been highlighted to be his man-management and social skills almost amongst his groups of players. He`s a tactician and he is great at it, a very intelligent man with a great knowledge of the game and study's his opposition inside out.

Easier said than done.Who is the right man and his he available.?

This is why I come to this forum. A right good giggle at people asking for Sinfields resignation based on decisions that haven't been made or announced yet

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You can have Chris Chester if you want

He has been mentioned but no thanks.

Please...

There’s no point in bringing in anyone who we’re not confident brings more than Agar can.

We have no divine right to just pick any fruit off a tree we want. Some of the very best coaches are unavailable to us.

I would like to know the good ones who are available because I can't think of many?

griffin

After being burned by Furner, an ex-player known to KS and GH, it seems unlikely at this stage that we'll go for an Aussie with no known links to the club or the British game, however good they may be.

I wouldn’t hesitate in approaching Salford re Ian Watson’s availability

Griffin. Smith. Wane. Watson
To name 4 for starters.

I wouldn’t hesitate in approaching Salford re Ian Watson’s availability

What a short sighted view that would be.

Agar will be coach in 2020 don't know why people are still debating it, not sure he is the right man but as there are no other candidates jumping out at us, and most importantly we need 4-5 more signings and get rid of the likes of both Briscoes, Ferres ,Sutcliffe, singleton, as well as sick notes like Crosby and Ward, Jjb Ablett all retiriring anyway.