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| No direction in attack on the opponent's line, running back into where the last tackle was made and getting wrapped up. Two passes to one wing and someone cuts back into the thick of it in the middle, it's the same clueless attack we seem to play under McDermott. When are we going to recruit someone with a rugby brain and kicking game?
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| Btw, does anyone still think Joel Moon is a halfback? He can be a devastating runner and terrific individual, but a halfback?
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| Out of interest, just how many second halfs have we lost this year?
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| Tonight demonstrated why, for me, moon is not a long term solution at 7.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Whilst that was a rudderless and thoroughly dumb performance, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water...'"
On this forum after a loss? Unlikely.
Garbage performance tonight but every team produces some throughout a season.
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| This was down to the players who were all well below par. Poor handling and predicable to defend greedy one man rugby meant we never really had threatened to score. We never made the ball work or tried to create space and did not play as we have been playing. The only players who deserve any credit were JJB who never stopped trying, Garbutt who made big meters but still made errors, Parcell who tried but not his best game and young Walker who looks to have some class. Cuthbertson had perhaps his worst game, Ward was no better and Singleton looks to run out of energy. They and the rest owe the supporters and the coach an apology.
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| Quote ="Seth"Tonight demonstrated why, for me, moon is not a long term solution at 7.'"
He never was a long term option. But he is currently out best option, which is the reason.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He never was a long term option. But he is currently out best option, which is the reason.'"
Id rather have lilley in there developing his game
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| Quote ="Seth"Id rather have lilley in there developing his game'"
But not with McGuire would that work.
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| Quote ="Seth"Tonight demonstrated why, for me, moon is not a long term solution at 7.'"
What about judging him over a period instead of cherry picking a single game where the whole team had a sloppy attitude. Not even established HB's would've had much hope playing in that lineup tonight.
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| Moon may not be a half but Maguire is. WTF was he doing all game?
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| Awful, simply awful. No structure. Defence OK in parts but went to sleep at key moments.
WTF was going on with the bench
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| Worst home game I've seen in a long time, including last season. Embarrassing
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| Also, is it me, or do we always seem to lose on a thursday TV game
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| I would rather Lilley take Mcguire's spot at the moment, I can't see what he's bringing to the side at the moment. It's certainly not organisation or a kicking game.
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| Thursday night games:
14 - 4 - 2 W 1 D 1 L
15 - 6 - 2 W 1 D 3 L
16 - 5 - 2 W 0 D 3 L
17 - 3 - 0 W 0 D 3 L
14 - BRA CAS HUD CAS
15 - HUD HFC HUD CAS WIG CAS
16 - WAR CAS CAS HKR LEI
17 - STH CAS HUD
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| The only positive was the performance of young Walker who dealt with just about every kick that Brough teased him with.
Otherwise we were crap in attack & never got to grips with Brough. A game to forget, one I'll not bother watching on the Sky Planner.
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| With all the injuries to our backs and losing Watkins and hall next week, I can't see us beating Catalans. Cas at MW I think we'll lose and then I think we'll win one of Warrington or Widnes.
I don't say this to be negative I'm just preparing myself for a tough may. What I will be interested in is how we respond in June. And where we'll be left on the table.
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| I had a bad feeling about this game all week for some reason! Seems my senses were correct.
Terrible performance, I just hope that it's another blip, next month will be interesting but I'm not writing the team off after that performance, we've performed far and away better than I thought we would over the last 6/7 weeks so theyve got some good will in the bank with me... for now!
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| That was a blip and a half. Second half was absolutely craptastic. One to forget sharpish is all I can really say. Not liking Mr Mullaleys wandering around looking like he's awaiting instruction from anybody at all.
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| Quote ="FGB"Moon may not be a half but Maguire is. WTF was he doing all game?'"
McGuire s himself every time he plays against Danny Brough.
Time for him to call it a day, no game management, no organisational skills, no bottle. Once his legs went his days were coming to an end, gets his place through club loyalty.
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| Quote ="WF Rhino"I would rather Lilley take Mcguire's spot at the moment, I can't see what he's bringing to the side at the moment. It's certainly not organisation or a kicking game.'"
Seriously, its fans lie you that make me want to smash heads. Leeds win - the opposition are rubbish, Leeds lose - its Mac or Mags fault. If Mags try was allowed (which it would have been in a non televised game) we would have smashed them. We were not very good but it is not Mags fault, or Macs.
All 17 players let the team down. What did Kallum bring? or Galloway, or Bingo? etc etc. Kicking has never been one of Mags assets so why should it be now? We were beaten by the better team on the night aided by some dodgy ref calls, inc one of their tries.
We support them no matter what. If you don't like it then off and support a team that wins every week. Good luck with that.....
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| Big difference in kicking game quality and Leeds lost too much ball in the wet.
When the flat line off the cuff stuff does not work it looks awful. Too much lateral running as well.
Bit unlucky with some ref's calls.
Thought hudds were very motivated and compressed defence worked very well for them.
Personal view is Moon will be one of the Leeds halves for a few years to come. IMO his kicking games is better than some give him credit for and the bottom line is he is a better overall player than any other HB option Leeds have. I understand the view that he is not a traditional 6/7. I can't see Leeds signing a better player than him for next season
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| As poor as I thought we were in the halfs, and my god Brough showed it doesn't matter how poor your team mates are, if you are a good half you are a good half, I still think it was the forwards who were the biggest let down. Tactics, yes a big reason for this, but they were very punch weak also, very limited drive.
JJB who I personally thought ruined a lot of any moves, and disagree was good, made more hit ups in that game than any prop but Garbutt, and yet JJB has never been a metre maker. He tried massive, but his top effort wasn't to the team benefit, yet he is the one with Garbutt constantly running the ball. It must be very easy for a defence knowing what is coming.
I think Singleton and JJB also missed a fair view tackles between them, and were easy targets for Huddersfield to run at.
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| The defence was horrible from both teams. Some of the gaps near the line are just shocking.
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