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| I think if Newman hadn't had the serious injury we would have probably accepted Sutty would get more opportunities elsewhere. Some people on here are talking as if Newman will be straight back in, and on form some time next season.
Sadly this is by no means a guarantee. That injury would have ended an older players career.....
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| I personally am happy with the news. I feel Sutcliffe's value often gets overlooked by a lot of fans.
He is still only 26. Maybe if Konrad stays his role within the 17 may change. However, for now, Harry is still a while off so we will run with Koni and Sutty to start the season.
Good competition for places.
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| Quote ="Shabino"I think if Newman hadn't had the serious injury we would have probably accepted Sutty would get more opportunities elsewhere. Some people on here are talking as if Newman will be straight back in, and on form some time next season.
Sadly this is by no means a guarantee. That injury would have ended an older players career.....'" Is that a fact as I've haven't read anywhere that it could have been career ending. Barrie Mac came back from a triple brake much later in his RL career.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Is that a fact as I've haven't read anywhere that it could have been career ending. Barrie Mac came back from a triple brake much later in his RL career.'"
Any serious injury can threaten a career. Just ask Yowyeh or Stankovitch. But the kid is clearly positive and young, so I'm sure will make full recovery, but will take time.....
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Is that a fact as I've haven't read anywhere that it could have been career ending. Barrie Mac came back from a triple brake much later in his RL career.'"
Barrie did his when he was 24 in 97 hardly old, but it took him 2 years to get back to form and back until the team. if he was 32-33 probably game over.
If Newman is back in the team at all before may/June that will be a surprise never mind first choice. He will gave fight for his place this year or take his chance if others are injured. Hurrell Sutcliffe Broadbent Newman in that order at the moment, no way would we give Sutcliffe a 3 tear deal if he was nit a first choice starter.
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| Quote ="Seth"He must have had a rethink on being prepared to be a bit part player as beyond being back up at centre I can’t see any other roles unfortunately.'"
But unfortunate you don't pick the side so it does not matter what role you can see for him. The club see him as a starter and currently first choice centre.
The club have tied up an hone grown local player who is 26 and coming into his prime. Good management for me.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Barrie did his when he was 24 in 97 hardly old, but it took him 2 years to get back to form and back until the team. if he was 32-33 probably game over.
If Newman is back in the team at all before may/June that will be a surprise never mind first choice. He will gave fight for his place this year or take his chance if others are injured. Hurrell Sutcliffe Broadbent Newman in that order at the moment, no way would we give Sutcliffe a 3 tear deal if he was nit a first choice starter.'" Only 24 i thought it was later than that.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"But unfortunate you don't pick the side so it does not matter what role you can see for him. The club see him as a starter and currently first choice centre.
The club have tied up an hone grown local player who is 26 and coming into his prime. Good management for me.'"
I thought this was a message board for musings and opinions where nothing any of us say really matters?
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| He was the best centre in the team in the second half of last season. Better defensively than Hurrell and was good in attack too. Might not be as explosive as Hurrell but he linked up well with Handley and scored some nice tries himself
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| Quote ="Harrigan"He was the best centre in the team in the second half of last season. Better defensively than Hurrell and was good in attack too. Might not be as explosive as Hurrell but he linked up well with Handley and scored some nice tries himself'" Unless Hurrell is dynamite nest season i'd be quite happy to go with Newman Suttcliffe and Broadbent.Broadbent looks to have put a bit of size on him.The monies saved on Hurrell could be used elsewhere ie a 6 or another barnstorming prop.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Only 24 i thought it was later than that.'"
24 or 25 he just looked older
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| Quote ="Seth"I thought this was a message board for musings and opinions where nothing any of us say really matters?'"
It is, so my musings in response to your musings don’t really matter either.
The point was its ultimately the role the club see for him that matters. No offence was meant to be caused.
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| Some good points re. Newman. He could be several months from fitness, and the last thing we want is for him to rush this.
I did wonder whether this length of deal for a centre could mean Hurrell is under pressure. I hope Konnie has a really good season and stays on personally: we lack strike players and he is one.
Done deal now so Sutty will start on the left (good because Hurrell stays on the right then); Broadbent, A Sutcliffe as replacements. Both will get games this year.
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| Harry is a tough competitor and a tremendously tough kid but it will take time for him to get back to full form. This deal with Sutty buys Harry time to get back fully.
Liam played his best stuff since probably 2015 at the back end of last season. I was pleased to see him playing well and pleased hes got a new deal. There has been times i felt he needed a rocket putting up him but hopefully now he can kick on. Good luck to him.
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| Read in an interview Agar laughed at the suggestion of Hurrell moving to the pack.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Harry is a tough competitor and a tremendously tough kid but it will take time for him to get back to full form. This deal with Sutty buys Harry time to get back fully.
Liam played his best stuff since probably 2015 at the back end of last season. I was pleased to see him playing well and pleased hes got a new deal. There has been times i felt he needed a rocket putting up him but hopefully now he can kick on. Good luck to him.'"
He’s still only 26 and some in her want rid because they see Newman Broadbent as the shiny new toys, if he ended up at Cas ripping it up some people would be like “why did we let a 26 year old go with his best years in front off him look at him now” we need to keep hold if as many home grown players as possible.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Harry is a tough competitor and a tremendously tough kid but it will take time for him to get back to full form. This deal with Sutty buys Harry time to get back fully.
Liam played his best stuff since probably 2015 at the back end of last season. I was pleased to see him playing well and pleased hes got a new deal. There has been times i felt he needed a rocket putting up him but hopefully now he can kick on. Good luck to him.'"
Most sensible thing you posted on here for a while
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| Good luck to Liam for sure but I’ve not seen enough to make me think he will cut it in Leeds first 13 into the future.
I think we will need him this year, but it’s up to him to make centre his position. The thing that bugs me a bit is this whole narrative that it’s the club’s fault he’s been used as a utility. Maybe. But Sutcliffe hasn’t played well enough in any position to keep it. He wasn’t good enough at SO, wasn’t good enough in the back row by some distance for me, and centre is his best IMO but he has tough competition.
He is a talented player but things are changing at Leeds and you are going to have to be close to international class in every position to get a game soon. We will see.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Harry is a tough competitor and a tremendously tough kid but it will take time for him to get back to full form. This deal with Sutty buys Harry time to get back fully.
Liam played his best stuff since probably 2015 at the back end of last season. I was pleased to see him playing well and pleased hes got a new deal. There has been times i felt he needed a rocket putting up him but hopefully now he can kick on. Good luck to him.'" not the first centre we've had like that , iro , blackmore , to name 2 ---- iam was going well at so till his injury and at centre in 2017
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Barrie did his when he was 24 in 97 hardly old, but it took him 2 years to get back to form and back until the team. if he was 32-33 probably game over.
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I think you will find once fully fit Newman will be in front of Sutty and Broadbent
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Good luck to Liam for sure but I’ve not seen enough to make me think he will cut it in Leeds first 13 into the future.
I think we will need him this year, but it’s up to him to make centre his position. The thing that bugs me a bit is this whole narrative that it’s the club’s fault he’s been used as a utility. Maybe. But Sutcliffe hasn’t played well enough in any position to keep it. He wasn’t good enough at SO, wasn’t good enough in the back row by some distance for me, and centre is his best IMO but he has tough competition.
He is a talented player but things are changing at Leeds and you are going to have to be close to international class in every position to get a game soon. We will see.'"
Jesus we are a million miles of your last sentence , please post your Address in future , i guess it is somewhere on Fantasy Island
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Jesus we are a million miles of your last sentence , please post your Address in future , i guess it is somewhere on Fantasy Island'"
I’m talking about a year or two down the line, but yes I’ll stand by the comment.
Handley, Sutcliffe (!), Briscoe, Hurrell, Newman, Gale, Myler, Leeming, Tetevano, Martin, Walker and even King are all current or ex internationals or England Knights/squad. Mik, Holroyd, Walters, Broadbent, Hall, Muizz are all ex England Academy.
I’m not saying they are all at the “international” level today but Leeds is moving in the right direction. I have faith in these young lads in particular.
We have another few coming through who I am confident will be thereabouts as well.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Jesus we are a million miles of your last sentence , please post your Address in future , i guess it is somewhere on Fantasy Island'" Not sure we are a million miles off that. We have a pretty good squad and cover in all positions and one or two exceptional youngsters. We are certainly going in the right direction.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Not sure we are a million miles off that. We have a pretty good squad and cover in all positions and one or two exceptional youngsters. We are certainly going in the right direction.'"
Quite agree we are going in the right direction , but he has now changed from soon to the next year or two
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Quite agree we are going in the right direction , but he has now changed from soon to the next year or two'"
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