For me it was not a penalty try. He still had to catch and ground the ball neither were certain. The young saints winger in the game before had an open try line dived early and knocked on. In the NRL Grand final the player had full control of the ball and it was dislodged by the defender knocking the ball out of his hands by his foot. An illegal move but used by some full backs ( Wellans & Tompkins ).

I'm saving that up. It'll go nicely with a whisky tonight once a few more pages have been added

I’ll save you the trouble mate. The ref was paid, and he was instructed that Leeds win at all costs.

Oh, and as for Myler, that deliberate elbow of his on Ollie Holmes was a disgrace, got the red card the wrong way round.

The nutjob forum we call it.

Massively. The hatred towards us and the wider game in general is quite something.. not from them all but a few too many imo

A couple or 3 of my favourites from their forum



“Holmes was petulant, yes, but it wasn't a kick it was a push away with the leg”


“Bent as they come, 34 incorrect decisions to the benefit of Leeds in the first half” (set restarts, knock one, ball steals, elbows etc)

“ The ref obviously doesn’t understand the game if he gives that as a red card. Games gone soft if that warrants a sending off”

Just nipped over for a gander. They are not happy!

I think we’ll all agree, Leeds lad/fan or not, Tom Grants had a shocker for both teams. I remember being amused at some of his decisions at Headingley earlier this year when he reffed us.

To generalise, i thought we got away with boat loads of infringements that i could quite easily see Kendal, Hicks et al pinging us for and rightly so. I mean, Hurrell hits Trueman on suspicion, play on. And then pings Cas for exactly the same thing. Asking for trouble.

But Cas werent guilt free and they obviously came with a disruptive game plan which unfortunately will sometimes go against you.

I thought one of Grants biggest failings was he had chance to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and assert his authority but instead he allowed it to descend into a niggly, scrappy affair.

On the Myler/Holmes incident, and to coin an F1 phrase, its a “racing incident” in that Myler is fighting for a quick PTB and he has “accidentally” elbowed Holmes in the face. Holmes reaction initially is something weve seen many times before and will always be penalised. But the “kick” forceful or not, has intent and deserved a red. If folk are saying their kid kicks harder then maybe Holmes shouldve put some actual effort into it and made the red worth it. Simple fact is, it was silly and petulant and hes paid the price. It reminded me of the Bailey/Radford incident years ago. Those baying for Mylers blood, ask yourself this, next time a player is fighting for a quick PTB and accidentally catches the tackler with his boot, he hasnt kicked him on purpose. Its part of the tackle. Heads and elbows and knees and hips sometimes dont go together well. I dont think Myler is at risk.

Watched the Dwyer/McShane incident a few times. Will be interesting to see what happens with that one. He looks as if he had his bumpers up more than has lead with the elbow. Again, seen those penalised in the past. Wasnt it Watts against McIllorum got a red a couple of years ago for similar.

Anyway, a real dogfight of a game that im glad weve won. Thursdays selection should be interesting.

Any time Gronk appears on the VT it’s too slag off a referee. We all complain about referees when our teams lose. But Cas take it to another level. They complain whenever Child refs a Wakey/Cas match as he’s from Dewsbury despite our win percentage with Child as ref being quite low.

I also don’t think Powell slagging off Ganson every week helps their cause either.

Yeah I've been on there. Pretty vetrionic.
Who's be a a referee. They are calling for him to lose his job!!

I will say that when we have had some dodgy calls we have been quite vociferous in venting our opinion but this victim mentality stems right from the coaches door.

Every other game he's whinging about injuries, covid, and refs especially, as if he's the only coach to suffer these problems, trying desperately to create a siege mentality in his team.

Cas were flying in last night (as they should in their coop farnal) and we also were not taking a backwards step. There were some poop calls all over the shop for both teams, most were evened up, some were not, big deal, move on and see you Monday for round two.

Friday 6th Nov,

Weve got Wakey Thurs/Sunday

Hopefully any bans are served and its the same teams for round 2 though,

One thing to bare in mind, is that a lot of the referees currently in SL are young and inexperienced. Similar to players, we have to be patient and expect them to make mistakes, they'll learn, but they'll still make less mistakes than the players themselves.

No officials = No game.

Fans of all clubs would do well to remember that every now and again, at all levels the game is played.

At least they showed up last night, and didn’t blag another Covid outbreak because of injuries.

I'd put holmes's sending off on a level with sinfields a few years back: at the softer end of an automatic red. Don't remember cas cryarsing on about the game having gone soft and bad reffing back then though I suppose anythings possible

When your head coach is constantly moaning about referees that attitude will seep through to both players and supporters IMO.

I thought the ref had a poor game last night, but so what, they are human it happens but ni ref in the professional game has ever been corrupt or bent and those suggesting it need to have a word with themselves.

Good point and does mirror the two incidents well.
It was the intent that got both players sent off not the force in which it was aimed.
Both players foolish and Holmes will probably be available for the return game.

Yup the ref spoilt the game for both teams.
He dropped loads of ball,
Made some awful decisions
Kicked out petulebtku at someone
Tackled a man without the ball who had a walk in.........


He should hang his head in shame..

Let's not pretend our fans are angels on this score. Even after the last 16 years when we have won every trophy multiple times, many still insist every ref is biased against us.

I very rarely complain about refs but I've also never met a fan who thinks the ref will be on their side but plenty who think they will be against.

Yeah, my post was a real ref bashing one wasnt it?

The most annoying thing for me was the try just before half time. So stupid, from everyone involved.

We actually conceded a similar try to Wigan, MM 2014 just before HT sinfield put a chip out wide, snaffled by charnley, walk in.

And in the CC final.

That was pretty hilarious. I’m surprised Gale didn’t just knock it into touch.

Sorry. No it wasn't.
Think I'm just getting fed up of the constant criticism of refs. They call what they see.
Fans jump on refs so easily, yet refuse to hold the players to count for bad decisions and indiscipline.