Also, the perception of the game suffers as a result, as the resulting pass travels massively forward in relation to the ground.
Most - though by no means all - longstanding fans recognise this.
However, it is massively difficult to explain to someone new to the game whose understanding is that the ball should go backwards. There must be huge levels of scepticism amongst casual TV viewers too. In fact I know there is.

Oddly enough it makes the skills look lower even though a flat pass at speed is one of the hardest to do.

Walker
Briscoe Newman Hurrell Handley
Tui Myler
Seumanufagai Dwyer Singleton
Sutciffe Watkins
Merrin

Smith Ferres Donaldson Oledzki

I think Agar will go something like this with Golding and Cuthbertson to miss out. I'd like to see Tui and Watkins dropped though.

From the 19 I think Agar will go with.

Walker
Briscoe
Newman
Hurrell
Handley
Sutcliffe
Myler
Seamanufagai
Dwyer
Singleton
Ferres
Watkins/Smith ( I'd have Smith start and drop Watkins and Cuthbertson can come in on the bench.
Merrin

Subs

Lolohea/Golding ( I'd rather have Golding but think Agar will go with Lolohea)
Oldezki
Smith
Donaldson

I'd like to see singleton, Watkins, ferries and Tui dropped.

I actually think sutty will play in the halves with ferries starting and Tui on the bench.

Why do we need Tui on the bench? Surely we can let the coach driver either stay with the bus or get a seat in the stands????

If you read my post I said I wouldn't have Tui in the squad at all but what I think will happen is that Tui is on the bench.

I don't mind being criticised but I like it to at least be for something I actually wrote.

Would it be ok to criticise you of not having a sense of humour then?

No. He didn’t write that he had a sense of humour.

He didn’t have to, it was implied.

Oh. Hahah. Good one. Yay for you.

I'm feeling pretty optimistic in general going forward after events this week.
Really sorry to see Kal end his Leeds career sooner than it should have been, but I think it was the right call. I'm happy with Walker and Dwyer signing on, and Mellor looks a reasonable addition.
Some of our academy prospects are future full England internationals if they get their attitude right and a bit of luck.
OF course we're not out of the woods yet, but I'm starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
We are going to have some serious strike in another year or two if we get some more key positions filled with quality.
The Leeds pack is just one or two quality signings away from being awesome once it matures. Trout, Walters, Smith, Merrin, Mellor, McConnell, Mustapha, maybe still Ward for back row. Oledski, Holroyd, Ava, +1 prop. Johnson at 9.
Hurrell, Newman, Broadbent for centre. Walker FB.
It will take a little time still but we're slowly putting together a side capable of winning the comp again IMO. More than that, a side which I believe will be enjoyable to watch.
One aggressive, intimidating, inspirational prop. One real high quality six (with a kicking game). Maybe another winger and I'm actually pretty happy with what we've got.

Hopefully the weather improves

Any thoughts on who'll be skipper? Do we stick with Kal and hope he will be out to impress, or look to the future? Merrin?

Agars press conference suggests Watkins will continue. Not convinced that's right for player of club

I agree, it's all over for him. Thanks but time to move on.

That said, in a good side just because you have the armband doesn't mean others shouldn't step up and be a positive influence. I'd like to see Merrin as our next captain based in what we have currently so the next few months are his (and anyone elses) audition.

No walker tonight, not fit?

fatty lola at full back. jesus......

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous.

I am happy to show patience, I understand there is a big rebuild to be done.

But I won't accept a club and a management structure who keep making the same mistakes.

Ferres is simply not good enough. If Watkins isn't one of the top two players in his position that doesn't mean we wedge him in somewhere else. The team selections are the epitomy of madness.

Donaldson is better than both of them, trout has looked good, heck, mustapha good do a job I'm sure.

I hate having to tolerate the club acknowledging how craap we are yet picking the exact same rubbish.

Concerned too for Briscoe and Newman, brough will target them

Brough has played in a Dinnerjacket for 15 years against us so good luck Lolohea and Briscoe.

Tonights game will say alot about how we finish the season, Agar had two full weeks to set the bar, we olay well tonight and hopefully we can get some wins and come home with some wind in our sails, another poor performance and its limp home and just about stay up.

Worst 2nd row of the season. Donaldson is much better.

Zero interest shown from Lolohea so far, no communication or kick pursuit

Ha ha ha