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| Hull has been a cultural desert forever. Famous Leeds human rights campaigner William Wilberforce never went there while leading one of the most important socio-political changes of the industrial age. Celebrated Leeds poet Philip Larkin also shunned the city throughout his life. In our own sport Leeds legend Clive Sullivan gave it a wide berth when he was GB's first black captain.
But, if you do decide to break with the tradition established by those people, you might find several (in my opinion) excellent museums, England's largest (and surely one of the most beautiful) parish church, housing some of the most important preserved medieval brickwork in the country. There might be a very good public art gallery that weds its formal collection to a brilliant program of local-led events and exhibitions. Maybe even a couple of good theatres, a host of fantastic old pubs and even a recently refurbished grade 2 listed public park.
But nah, unemployment's pretty high so there can't be owt worth seeing there.
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Nearly crashed my car when it was announced on Radio 2 this morning.
Chris Evans then played 'Happy Hour' by 'The Housemartins'
Hull? Culture?
Nope. Doesn't work.
The 2 words 'Polish' and 'Turd' spring to mind!'"
You should add the letter y to the end of your username as you obviously don't have a clue what the word culture actually means . You should read your history books or better still take an educational trip around the City of Hull and take a little time to learn about its rich heritage and history.
Then you may just realize how misinformed you have been all these years and hopefully prevent you making rash uneducated quips.
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| The same people probably said the same thing when Bradford applied for the City of Culture, and of course they too would have completely missed the point of what the city of culture status is supposed to achieve...
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| Quote ="Seventies red" you obviously don't have a clue what the word culture actually means:'" to maintain bacteria in conditions suitable for growth?
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| Uk city of culture was a pretty good idea to begin with but that idea wasn't really followed through, not really sure what the point is of how it has eventually been put in to practice
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| I can taste the sour grapes through the pixels...
Great achievement and just think of the publicity the RFL has missed out on for the Semi Finals. Placing one at the KC the same week as the UK is talking about the City of Hull would have been great.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"I can taste the sour grapes through the pixels...
Great achievement and just think of the publicity the RFL has missed out on for the Semi Finals. Placing one at the KC the same week as the UK is talking about the City of Hull would have been great.'" f
Unfortunately that means having a little foresight.
Foresight depends upon deep thinking and planning, of which the RFL lack on both counts.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith" I can taste the sour grapes through the pixels... '"
Stop licking the screen then..
Quote ="smudgersmith"Great achievement and just think of the publicity the RFL has missed out on for the Semi Finals. Placing one at the KC the same week as the UK is talking about the City of Hull would have been great. '"
No disrespect to the city of culture award (you can read my thoughts on your charter city above), but I would say that publicity as a sideshow would pale rather compared to the impact it will make if we can get 70k+ bums on seats in the national stadium this weekend. Which is what the double header aims to achieve. 140k-150k live atendance at 2 RL matches in the space of a week? That's something you can use to show the sport in a good light.
Also, consider the period of time elapsed since the tournament schedule was finalised. How confident would you, in the RFL's shoes, have been that Hull was going to win? Where's the publicity in riding the feelgood factor of an unsuccessful application to be city of culture?
I don't think the benefits of what you're suggesting would have been great enough to outweigh the risks.
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| I'd rather have le grand depart myself.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Are you even aware how this award works or what it sets out to achieve?
And I'm not from Hull and don't live there.'"
It seems to be an award handed out to really sh*t cities to give its residents a glimmer of hope to cling to while drudging through the mundane squalor of their existence.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"It seems to be an award handed out to really sh*t cities to give its residents a glimmer of hope to cling to while drudging through the mundane squalor of their existence.'"
Not really sure what to say, except:
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"I can taste the sour grapes through the pixels...
Great achievement and just think of the publicity the RFL has missed out on for the Semi Finals. Placing one at the KC the same week as the UK is talking about the City of Hull would have been great.'"
Its not a missed opportunity at all. Its not even an opportunity as no-one outside of the city of culture committee would have known which way the decision would have gone, and probably not a year ago when the venues were decided. Even if they did, I'm not sure that 60,000+ at wembley is such a bad thing
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Until then, there'll be no silverware heading down the M62 west of Leeds'"
Didn't the 2 available trophies this year both go west of Leeds this year?
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Didn't the 2 available trophies this year both go west of Leeds this year?'"
3 if you count the LLS.
I don't think Mr Dip is too hot on compass points.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"It seems to be an award handed out to really sh*t cities to give its residents a glimmer of hope to cling to while drudging through the mundane squalor of their existence.'"
Possibly so, but then at least we can comfort ourselves with the fact our city wasn't responsible for inflicting Jimmy Saville on the world.
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| Quote ="Dudley"Possibly so, but then at least we can comfort ourselves with the fact our city wasn't responsible for inflicting Jimmy Saville on the world.'"
Really....???
Barrel and scraping springs to mind.
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| Quote ="Dudley"Possibly so, but then at least we can comfort ourselves with the fact our city wasn't responsible for inflicting Jimmy Saville on the world.'"
You're weird.
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| Don't mention Jimmy saville they get very touchy about it they even had thread defending him now that's weird
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Don't mention Jimmy saville they get very touchy about it they even had thread defending him now that's weird'"
That point of view would require a line of thinking that means every citizen in any city that has a person who breaks the law, carries the guilt of that person on their backs too, in essence you could place every citizen in a city in the dock every time there is a law broken in that city because they all carry the presumption that "they are all like that" in that city.
Now THAT is weird.
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| That's not really what i'm saying is it but you know that don't you
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| Now then now then...........behave boys!
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"That's not really what i'm saying is it but you know that don't you'"
No, you seem to be suggesting that everyone who uses this forum will defend Savile when prompted, your use of the word "they" is all inclusive when speaking of a group of people.
Or did you just pick the wrong word.
Or is any of your sentence true ?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Really....???
Barrel and scraping springs to mind.'"
Really? What about songs mocking sinking trawlers, all depends which barrels you choose to scrape I suppose.
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