I have little knowledge of the 2003 CCF (didn't see any of the semi final) as I was in Oz/Nz for six months.

On the topic of the 2004 Tri Nations Final, there were Rhinos-clad ts seated close by who were blaming Noble's selection of Harris ahead of McGuire for the 0-38 half time deficit.

Dear Leeds,

At Wembley tomorrow, can you please play like you have been doing all season.

Many Thanks

From all at Warrington Wolves

Stretcher Boy/Biscuit Bones/Tweaky Tendons/Shin-Splint Softcock/Windmill Wally/Turnstile Twisty has always been an excellent FTB. He loves Cas and London.


My international attendee experiences outnumber and outweigh all that domestic SL fluff, hence the reasonableness of my memory bank.


Quite.

Aye, with that old nagging habit of peaking at the right time and winning a silly amount of titles. Disgusting aren't we?

You've heard of that Super League cup as well haven't you? You get rings, ultimate glory etc.....

As you say, your experience of Danny Mag's is vastly weighted towards his representative appearances and as we're talking about his domestic game don't you think you should leave comment to those who have far more experience of this than you do? i.e 95% of the posters on this board.

Particularly the 9th March

See this is the difference. Warrington know if we play our best we will win regardless of how they play.

I understand why we are underdogs but it is nice to know it's in our own hands.

Not really since apart from the 2003 CCF and 2004 & 2009 SLGF's, I've attended all the others. I'll take my broader experiences, knowledge and conclusions ahead of the more limited-in-scope domestic one-club supporter experiences, lack of knowledge and conclusions any day of the week.

Don't rise to him... look at his signature... 'Warrington - the Brazil of Rugby League' Brazils last major competition was the olympics... and they came second... The last time they won a major trophy was '09... so yes... Warrington ARE the Brazil of Rugby League.

Ah, if only there were a single level of performance you could use to describe "like we've been doing all season." But then we wouldn't be so joyously unpredictable would we?

Particularly the 9th March

-erm,vice versa mate

( cept for underdogs tag

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I can guess why you would want to remove the Challenge Cup final of 2010 from your memory....if my team had been so badly beaten I'd do the same.

Oh, trust me, that performance can never be erased from my memory... I'm just glad I was sat so far back I could hardly see it. But.... Warrington have won the CC 7 times.... Leeds... 11.

Warrington have a long way to go to reach the sucess that Leeds, St Helens, Wigan and Bradford have acheived if you want to look back over the years.

Impressive. Not every water-carrier can make such a claim, especially in such an important game.

I've already alluded to the likely reason Powell selected Burrow ahead of McGuire for the 2003 Challenge Cup final. When you then factor in Diskin leaving the Wheldon Road pitch with a knee injury making him an injury doubt for the final the following weekend and Leeds having started the season with only the one recognised hooker, Powell's hand was probably forced in favour of Burrow on the bench who had done well in that specific role after Diskin left the field at Castleford.



I realise I didn't have to remind you as clearly your recall of events around that time are above reproach but some others may appreciate a refresher.

Interchange hooker was a role Burrow was frequently used in for the remainder of the 2003 season by Powell. Some might argue it remains to this day his most effective position and it's a pity he didn't specialise in the role rather than wasting years trying to be a creative half-back.

Snore !

Exactly what relevance does Leeds having won 11 challenge cups have for tomorrow's final?

Nice posting skills.

Bradford have only won it 5 times

Wow do you think he could have improved his haul of 2 Harry Sunderland awards and an international player of the series?

Maybe McGuire should think of a change of position? If he'd stayed on the wing where Powell once selected him instead of trying to be a creative half back, he might have won a big award in a big game? You're onto something.

Remember McGuire At fullback but never on the wing

I'm sure although he was named on the wing Mcguire played FB that game and Mathers switched to the wing G.
Possibly against Wigan or Warrington iirc.

I think you could be on to something there, afterall one of those Harry Sunderland awards came about from a mixing and matching appearance in that alternative role off the bench - the one that resulted from a unanimous vote. What a waste of talent?



I know. Stand-Off's have had a notoriously difficult time (1 from 28 attempts) at winning the Harry Sunderland award during the SL Grand Final Era.

Although McGuire was named on the wing just the once by Powell he didn't spend any real game-time there as he played that night from the full-back position as I'm sure you'll recall with absolute clarity. I'd perhaps need slightly more evidence than that one appearance to form an opinion of McGuire in that role although I'm sure you're right to imply he'd successfully adapt given a week or two more.

Then again he may not have enjoyed such a remarkable (especially for a Leeds player) 2004 season that netted him the most tries by any single Leeds player in any single season over the SL Era so far, the first Leeds player to score five tries in a game for forty-six years, the clinching try in Leeds' 1st Championship triumph for 32 years, being awarded the Rugby League Writers Association Player of the Year, a place at stand-off in the Super League Dream team, a winning full International debut V New Zealand - followed a week later with a then home record victory score over Australia - and a third straight starting success the following week having been switched from stand-off to scum-half. McGuire's first three International starts had helped produce the first British win hat-trick for ten years.

So a case of swings and roundabouts.