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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I dont know very much about biblical scriptures and I'mnot as articulate as some on here,but if this thing about gay marriages came up I would have been dead against it.Now having met gay people in the work place etc and came to feel ok in their company and although I'm not fully comfortable with the gay marriage thing I am not going to sign a petition to stop people who I have found good work colleagues and decent citisens from having same sex marriages'"
I cant see how gay marriage could make you uncomfortable. I dont see how it affects you.
Im not trying to say that as a criticism, i mean it honestly. I cant see how someone else making a lifelong commitment to anyone else affects you in anyway shape or form. Whether that be straight marriage, gay marriage or any other type of commitment.
after all marriage is just the word for that type of commitment, like vow, pact, promise, pinky swear are other words, for other type of commitment. How can a word which adequately and neutrally describes something make someone uncomfortable?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I cant see how gay marriage could make you uncomfortable. I dont see how it affects you.
Im not trying to say that as a criticism, i mean it honestly. I cant see how someone else making a lifelong commitment to anyone else affects you in anyway shape or form. Whether that be straight marriage, gay marriage or any other type of commitment.
after all marriage is just the word for that type of commitment, like vow, pact, promise, pinky swear are other words, for other type of commitment. How can a word which adequately and neutrally describes something make someone uncomfortable?'"
I said I am not the most articulate.I meant a dew years ago I would have been against it,times are changing and so are my views,and as for the bible did people really live to hundreds and hundreds of years old in those times?I said I Would not sign that petition which means I Am not against gay marriage
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| Too much of this form of debate coming from the OP, in my opinion.
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| You are Tracy Emin and I claim my £5.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"You are Tracy Emin and I claim my £5.'"
What I choose to do (and not clean up) in my bed is none of your business, thank you very much.
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| if two people are happy and in love, why shouldnt they be able to get married?!
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"if two people are happy and in love, why shouldnt they be able to get married?!'"
BECAUSE TEH JESUS SEZ SO!
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"if two people are happy and in love, why would they want to ruin it by getting married?!'"
Edited.
Says an unmarried, but tied down anyway, BB.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Edited.
Says an unmarried, but tied down anyway, BB.'"
Kinky. Well done for getting a hand free to type, but make sure you slip it back into the handcuff before she gets back from Tesco.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Edited.
Says an unmarried, but tied down anyway, BB.'"
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Edited.
Says an unmarried, but tied down anyway, BB.'"
You'll burn for eternity and the bondage earns no brownie points either.
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| I think the OP is giving the vast majority of Christians a bad name. Further to that, I would suggest that most Christians see the bible as what it is - a guide of how to live your life as a good person. I think, the effective conclusionto the bible explains what being a good person actually entails:
Quote Matthew 25: 34-40
34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me."
37 "Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?"
40 "The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."'"
In my understanding, the teaching was that one should be nice to all and treat them how they would wish to be treated, which was then backed up with a threat that would fit public fear at that time. If only more people treated eachother like this.
Can Kirkstaller tell me how this would fit his views?
Anyway, how can anyone in the Catholic Church be opposed to homosexual relations, or does it only count with anyone of age?
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| Quote ="West Leeds Rhino"I think the OP is giving the vast majority of Christians a bad name. Further to that, I would suggest that most Christians see the bible as what it is - a guide of how to live your life as a good person. I think, the effective conclusionto the bible explains what being a good person actually entails:
In my understanding, the teaching was that one should be nice to all and treat them how they would wish to be treated, which was then backed up with a threat that would fit public fear at that time. If only more people treated eachother like this.
Can Kirkstaller tell me how this would fit his views?
Anyway, how can anyone in the Catholic Church be opposed to homosexual relations, or does it only count with anyone of age?'"
So basically, in the words of Bill and Ted: Be excellent unto one another?
I can live with that.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"You'll burn for eternity and the bondage earns no brownie points either.'"
Pain and bondage, oh no, if you insist.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Kinky. Well done for getting a hand free to type, but make sure you slip it back into the handcuff before she gets back from Tesco.'"
It wasn't my hand I was skittling the keys down with............
..........it must be my very precise small todger. If only I was Gotcha for a day.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"So basically, in the words of Bill and Ted: Be excellent unto one another?
I can live with that.'"
Yeah, pretty much sums it up for me.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"It wasn't my hand I was skittling the keys down with............
..........it must be my very precise small todger. If only I was Gotcha for a day.'"
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| I'm surprised this thread hasn't seen input from Homer Phone yet
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| I got married in the most unreligous place possible.....Las Vegas' Little White Chapel, and Elvis (the real one!) blessed our marriage outside
Wonder what God thought of that?
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"I got married in the most unreligous place possible.....Las Vegas' Little White Chapel, and Elvis (the real one!) blessed our marriage outside
Wonder what God thought of that?'"
I got married in Springfield sports and country club and Homer Simpson was definately not there,but this thread would be a good storyline for a Simpsons episode
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"I got married in the most unreligous place possible.....Las Vegas' Little White Chapel, and Elvis (the real one!) blessed our marriage outside
Wonder what God thought of that?'"
He blinked and missed it Sherbert Dipper.
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| If a gay person had a revelation and said that God has personally told them it was fine to be gay, would this be accepted? Considering most of the bible is based on revelation from god which can't be objectively proved, would Christians not have to accept this?
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"If a gay person had a revelation and said that God has personally told them it was fine to be gay, would this be accepted? Considering most of the bible is based on revelation from god which can't be objectively proved, would Christians not have to accept this?'"
......Only the true son of god would deny he is the son of god (or he might just be a very naughty boy, of course). All religious people should watch the life of brian and be prepared to be [itruly[/i enlightened.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"If a gay person had a revelation and said that God has personally told them it was fine to be gay, would this be accepted? Considering most of the bible is based on revelation from god which can't be objectively proved, would Christians not have to accept this?'"
If it's allt he same to you, I prefer my Sports presenters not to be either "The Son of Godhead", or forecast the end of the world..
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