Again... short sighted.

What about this Exiles match? That could grow over a number of years. Rugby League World Cup? Neutral Venue? I doubt the residents thing would allow pop concerts but the point is still there. Don't Wire rent the HJ out to the Liverpool FC reserves? What if LUFC get back in the big time and the same deal could be done?

It's all just very short sighted to say "we don't need the capacity".

There is a belting site at the side of the M1 link-road, South of the river that would be good for a stadium... in fact, I am sure someone else fancied a nice new ground there at some point?

I'd agree with AG on this. Also, might a new North Stand in the nearish future be an opportunity to expand capacity if it's needed? Or filling in the corner between the Carnegie & South stands?

Like this... but with a few yellow seats too.

How much do you reckon you'll get for a plot of land sandwiched between a cricket stadium and a main road, with pretty much zero potential for development?

Now come up with a figure of how much it would cost to buy a huge plot of land in LS16, clear it, build a new stadium with all the assorted facilities such as parking.

Take the second figure from the first one, then think how much interest alone you'd be paying on a loan of that size.

Can you see why it's a non-starter now?

Only enough to keep Leeds RLFC running - the RU team is presumably only a short term loan.

Anyway, in cashflow as opposed to income recognition terms November/December is a very positive period as that is when most season ticket cash and lower level sponsorship comes in together with a goodly chunk of the new shirt sales. So in some respects the end of October could be considered towards the bottom of the company's annual cash cycle.

Fairly sure Headingley beats them

Can't we just sell Headingley as a whole package to Cas??

Job done.

What about the Exiles match? Are you seriously suggesting Leeds invest an extra million quid into the stadium so they can get whatever amount the RFL are paying them to host an exhibition game?



Weren't Leeds United playing their reserve games at Belle Vue at one point? Why would Headingley need an extra 1,000 on its capacity to host them?

Your "build it and they will come" attitude is commendable but entirely unrealistic.

Ah, the Gilder school of Economics.

Forgive me, when you are investing substantial sums in the future of your business, is it generally the accepted course of action to reduce your future revenue stream? A potential thousand less paying punters per week over the course of a season could make the debt repayment a bit more problematic!

And if it's all right with you, yes, I think it's reasonable for anyone seeing the original proposal and comparing it with what's on offer, to feel less than excited.

I'm not saying let's build a huge stadium. I've not even saying let's increase the capacity.

I'm just saying, if we're spending £7,000,000 let's a least come out of it with the same capacity as we had before we spent a penny.

It's like paying to extend your house and ending up with fewer, smaller rooms, but a much more sturdy wall.

Spot on. On all counts.

Which version of the proposed south stand is depicted [url=http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/15490.phpHERE?[/url

"Welcome to your newly extended Asda... we've got fewer aisles & fewer checkouts but wait 'til you see the new Baby Changing Facilities!!"

Go on then Adam Smith - based on attendances over the most successful period in the club's history, how much revenue are Leeds going to lose by having a capacity of 21,000 rather than 22,000?

Let's keep it to actual, realistic revenue streams though if that's alright with you? Not pie in the sky like the Exiles game suddenly becoming the third biggest event in British RL after the Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final.

The very same, albeit with 4 extra metres added to the top. It was always going to look like the new pics.

Looks 4 metres lower to me and that was way back in December

4 inches, 4 metres... it is all the same to Keith!

Ahhhh... that takes me back to the days when the new screen was still just a twinkle in the designers eye. And now, just month's later, there it is doing its job, hoping that one day future human history can bear testament to the supreme influential role played by the greatest and most remarkable Big Screen ever to be erected.

God bless the Screen, and all who look at it. We salute you.

Quality rather than quantity

though in the case of this new proposal for the new south stand, neither appears to apply.

The BIG SCREEN now stands as a testament as to what the South Stand could HAVE been

Perhaps you could attempt an answer to my original question, before we address investment strategies?

Well, this makes a change from G1 and tvoc arguing at least.

Indeed.

It's one of those rare, yet refreshing agenda-free days given the temporary absence of G1.

I'm with Billy on this one. He seems (thus far) to have the same opinion as me so I'm going to sit this one out and let him do the arguing on my behalf.

HTH