He's 18th man!

Good points well put!

A bite !



As a member of Mensa it's hard to reconcile your considered opinion of me ...but hey we're all entitled to our opinions.

I wasn't ([ientirely[/i) serious.....To a person of your obvious erudition I thought the emoticons might have given you some indication of this.



How do you know whether I am a coach ??

The fact is probably not many of us on here [uare[/u coaches....therefore I would suggest [inone[/i of us should take ourselves too seriously.

The basic point is next season Leeds need to be careful not to rely too much on the "old guard" who are all going to come to the end of their contracts at the same time at the end of next season. Potential car crash city.

Christ not him !

Take it you are not after winning anything then??

Pitts in the starting 13







Shouldnt even be near the 17 IMO he's shat!

Personally don't think much change is needed in the playing roster.

A long off season break, a new coach with fresh ideas will do far more than any signing ever could.

Would you say Kirke was better ? Even JJB has hardly set the world on fire this season.

....and no i would not expect us to win anything....that's my point.

You're either looking for bites or you're not. What's it to be?

think have got the measure of this site now........alas not before time

maybe.

my friend it is entirely up to you.

2011 is far too early for that team. Next year wont see many changes. Smith to fill the Donald void, maybe Ambler to get on the bench and possibly Clarkson to start. Your BJBs, McShanes etc are going to have to wait for their chance i'm afraid. We cant have highly paid players sitting back with their feet up in the stands watching the kids earn their money.

Too true.... We live in an imperfect world. But woe betide them if i was coach. I have no need for friends, buddies or favourites.

We've no God given right to win any matchs, simply because we've had a pretty decent run over the last 7 seasons. That said, the squad we had at the begining of the season, was (on paper) our strongest, and coming off a Triple winning Final should have been pretty awesome this season.

A CC final in which we competed for 10 minutes, and a possible 4th place must be viewed as a lot less than awesome. And before the kneejerking begins, I'm not intrested about the 20/30 barren years which preceeded this era, or how you stood in the freezing rain for all of them. I was there too, so STFU. Injuries are not an excuse. They are a fact of life in this game for all teams, so what's gone wrong?

I think it's simply the fact that other teams have worked out where this particular Squad has strenghts and weakness, and tailor their game plan accordingly. I used to be fairly relaxed that in the last 15 minutes or so of a match we would still be running at our starting levels, whilst the opposition would be running out of puff. Not any more, all the other major teams have raised their fitness levels to ours, and we no longer enjoy that cushion.

We've always had outstanding individuals in the squad, perhaps we've become a little too complacent about the basics of the game, safe in the knowledge that one of the backs could dance his way through the opposition if need be.

Much has been discussed about the differing coaching abilities of Tony Smith and Bluey. Each has been outstanding for us, but there is a natural end to anyones period in control of a sporting team. Smith took us as far as he could, and I think he left at the right time. Similarly, I think Bluey's tenure is approaching the end as well. Both deserve all the plaudits for what they have acheived at Headingley.

Some fresh ideas from a new coach/coaching set up could provide the neccessary impetus, along with a couple of shrewd signings by GH, and we will once again be the team to beat.

20/30 barren years preceeded this era and I stood in the freezing rain for all of them.

Did you not hear? he told you to STFU.

No. I never read his drivel.

Pants on fire ! !

Well can you stop quoting him so I dont have to.

You were lucky! Who'd a thought 20/30 years ago we would all be sitting here drinking Chateau de Whinos whine, eh? Back in them days we were glad to pay price of a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Aye, a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Without milk or sugar. Or tea! In a filthy cracked Yorkshire Cup. That's when we 'ad a Yorkshire Cup. We used to 'ave to drink out of a rolled up copy of Rugby Leaguer or Green Final. But ya know, we were 'appy in those days, though we were sh[ii[/it... because we were sh[ii[/it. My old Dad used to say to me 'Success doesn't buy you happiness". And he was right. I was happier then and we had nothing! But you can't tell the young people of the day that. They won't believe you.

Now STFU...

I've no idea what you're talking about. My online personna may be that of a 39 year old Northern bloke but in reality I am a 17 year old girl who thinks Sinni is well fit, innit.

Your right about all these ridiculous accolades like "Most Feared:::::etc"

now STFU

We do not need wholesale changes but never the less changes are needed. We have enjoyed a tremendously succesfull period with largely the same group of players. Everthing comes to an end .... with age .... injuries etc so you cannot just standstill and judge the teamsheet on paper. There have been worrying signs all season. So we have to identify our weaknesses and risk areas.

The team on paper does not reflect the team on the park as performances have proven this season. Kylie is no-where near the player he was 2 years ago. Webb has not fully recovered from serious injury. Delaney has been a dissapointment on attack. Ali seems to be unable to complete a game. Senior is coming to the end of his centre career and leaves worrying holes in defence and we have two ageing hookers. Add to these a serious injury to JP our main tackler and go forward forward and that chance that Eastwood will return down under. So we do have problems to solve and should be planning replacements to integrate over the next couple of years.

On the plus side we have Watkins returning to fitness and the emergence of Clarkson and Ambler and possibly McShane and BJB back from loan, however most of these are prospects and not the finished article yet.

IMO we have an urgent need of a big prop who can penetrate and I think some future planning should be done to recruit some cover at half back eg youngster with all the skills. Some of the salary cap budget should be held in reserve in case we need to replace at short notice some of those who do not fully recover from injury.

My sentiments (nearly) exactly.

I still think Buderus has much to offer this year and next ...IF we allow him to play the full 80.... McShane (and Burrow/Sinfield) can cover his position when he's not fit (needs 'spelling' during a match) respectively.

Diskin for loose forward cover/signing autographs for his hero worshipers.

That's another load spent over Buderus.

When will your man crush end?