We've won 3 GFs on the bounce. Don't you think our players and coaches believe we can win another, plus the CC, this year?

And just where did i say you could not? read my post it says you can get to the GF just as easy from 3rd or 4th it does not say you cannot win it.
What i did say is being 9pts behind Wigan you can not finish top with only 8pts to play for.

Sorry, didn't explain my point too well. What I should have said was that I reckon we won't be shy of trying to beat you lot this week and saints the next.

I hope you come out all guns blazing but i think your coaching staff do know what they are doing and will keep at least 3 key players out this week we will see.

I agree with most but we still need league points to even finish 4th never mind 3rd or 2nd, lets wait till friday and see how McClennan plays it.

Just a thought, I know you can only beat what is put in front of you, but have Wigan beaten anyone this year who have fielded their strong, fit, first choice thirteen? Friday night remeinded me of a sunny Saturday in June 2005.... No doubt the comments about Friday from Wiganers will not be the same bleats as that Sunny Saturday night!

Also, what was Phil Clarkes comment about it all started to go wrong for Bradford the day they signed Iestyn Harris? Must admit I missed that one.

Yes Warrington at the HJ, Hull F.C at the DW, And you only had 3 first teamers out when you came to the DW and we had 2 out by the way. Saints had 1 first teamer out and so did Wigan when we played them at the GPW.

By the way Wigan still have 2 of there 1 to 13 players out you can only beat the team infront of you.
The question you should ask is how many Leeds have beaten when the other side has put its first choice 13 out?

When?

Just put this one in the keep net!!

suggest you read what i put then check it on the SL web site as thats where i got the teams from

Why would a 3-peat back to back Champion team worry about form or league tables given their inert knowledge that when they wish to, they can beat anyone in the League? The core of the team know how to perform at the key end of the season and it is ever more evident that they are saving themselves for the key run in come play-off time.

A very very brave soul to write of the Champions of 3 years running based around July form or league placings.

Donald, Delaney, Ablett, Peacock, Leuluai, Sinfield all missing just from a quick glance down the teamsheet. I may be missing someone though.

Should we delete Andy Greg from the "knows what he is talking about list?"

Saints had Wheeler (Dean played centre), Wellens (Wilkin at 6, Pryce at fullback) and Soliola out for the wigan game - funny looking 1 player missing for that game too.

Think this fella's lost the plot.

Missed Eastwood & Watkins as well, we did pretty well that day with all those out.

Whilst this time you will also have Lee Smith, arguably the most "big game" player in SL.

Whilst I agree with that, we've only really seen glimpses of the big game player since his invaluable effort against Bradford.

It's confirmed. You are a know nowt fekwit thick as fook gomper.

Brett Delaney, Kallum Watkins, Scott Donald, Jamie Peacock, Kylie Leuluai, Carl Ablett, Kevin Sinfield, Greg Eastwood.

Please explain how that amounts to 3, you gloit.

He thinks all 27 squad members are "first teamers" - we should take that as a compliment really.

He also claimed Wigan were missing two that night at the DW Stadium. All I can see is Harrison Hansen, Cameron Phelps and Iafeta Palea'aesina.

Hansen perhaps would be one but I'm struggling to see who the other one was.

Its the same way Wigan count British players as 'first team' so long as they're somewhere in the squad. See most threads on overseas players for examples.

Ahhh...I get it. You're using the wigan salary cap formula.

So Phelps being the number 1 fullback until injured does not count Hanson was out that is the 2.
At that point of the year Phelps has the number 1 shirt and was first choice fullback
Hanson has the number 11 shirt and was first choice second row.
Now is that not 2 maths is not the strong point of some of you is it.