Aren't tackles above the shoulder illegal anymore?

Always had doubts about his pace and acceleration G1, and the problems he's had won't have made him any quicker.

As for his injury record, I think that speaks for itself.

Strikes me as a Jason Golden type of player. He'll do a job for someone, somewhere but it won't be at a top SL side. Hope he goes on to prove me wrong wherever he ends up but I can't see it.

Fair comment I s'pose. His lack of appearances lead me to believe that the coaching staff see it more your way than mine.

We dont tackle their fullback after the chip through and the VR rules offside...



Its all ifs buts and maybes. No arguement with Manly but they werent streets ahead of us and over the 80minutes the score refelcts a fair balance.

They added an extra gear straight after the restart for 5 - 6 minutes which we couldnt match.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7918055.stmMatt Orford's thoughts[/url

Dunno if he's just being polite but he says some good things about us and SL generally.

Manly captain Matt Orford says the 28-20 victory over Leeds in the World Club Challenge was as "tough and intense" =redas any match he has played in

Interesting how that squares with your mate`s views.

Think I will stick with the current WWC winning team captain rather than a retired ex U8`s junior schoolboys champion.

Or maybe he's just being polite and gracious in victory and not biting the hand that has just fed his club a massive money spinner?

You should really try and form your own thoughts and opinions.

Personally, I think the truth lies somewhere between the comments in AP's blog and Orford's comments.

Oh I have formed my own opinion on the game thanks and its much closer to Orfords.

Has your thread containing the link just disappeared.

Shame that as I never did find out who Jamie Leon was supposed to be.

Cant see the thread where AP's view was posted where has it gone?

Even AP's blog is banned

I have no comment to make. Please return to the discussion on this thread.

I agree about Peacock, his "murder" pass to Burrow cost us our best chance of creating some tries and his bad temper cost us points while he was in the bin. Also he has lost the ability to offload and was playing one up rugby in the final quarter when needed to use some width with several overlap opportunities wasted.

Also agree about Ablett. I think Smith was our MofM and Donald wasted without a centre. Ali didn`t look fit but gave us a lift in second half.

Manly were very good and reminded me how we used to play. I still thnk that the Leeds early season form of last year would have beaten Manly.

What has happened to our offloading, backing up and lines of running. Our game plan now has too much negative one up rugby which is causing injuries and close results.

To be fair Peacock doesn’t throw that many passes and blaming him for wee Rob getting poleaxed is a little harsh, also his spell in the bin was cancelled out by Perry also being binned.

Its hard in the face of the facts as pointed out by G1 to have any sympathy with your view really.



Its a vaild point that it more than likely changed the course of the game in the favour.

It doesnt make JP a bad player. Its history now nothing more and we should move on to the next objective(s)

Face.. Bothered???

Manly may be the best side in the NRL but this season even if they are top there are likely to be at least 8 other sides that could beat them on their day. If Leeds were to compete in the NRL the week-in week-out intensity would be an enormous step up.