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| IF we sign Ellis expect Hauraki to depart imo.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"IF we sign Ellis expect Hauraki to depart imo.'"
I wouldn't cry if that happened
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| He will end up at Warrington - they will be able to get him under the cap
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| Let the bidding war start!!
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| Would be good to see him come back,
when is haurakis deal up?
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Let the bidding war start!!'"
And this is probably the reason we wont get him. IIRC he signed for Leeds on less money than other were offering him. Likewise, when he went to the NRL he'll probably have taken less money than he could have got over here.
He comes back a player in the absolute top bracket, and will command top dollar. He probably has a good few years left in him, but I would guess his best years are behind him too. We all know that GH can be as rigid as a girder in contract negotiations, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him at another club, now would I blame the lad
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| have we spent the cap this year
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| Ellis will be 32 next year, and I expect will want a three year deal. No thank you.
But I suppose he would fit in well at Wire or Leeds.
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| I hope we don't consider signing him. He will be 32 next year, he's coming back early for his last big payday. He joined Leeds to win trophies, he went to Australia to test himself in the hardest league there is. He's achieved a great deal in his career, his next move will be to the highest bidder.
I'd question his ambitions and motivation, plus hasn't he suffered more injuries over the last few years.
Nah, I'd let our rivals take the chance and offer him a very expensive 3 year deal.
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| Leeds "most likely" destination according to foxsports over here. Sincerely hope so, he's the best performing English import to NRL ever. Nuff said
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| I'd like to see him back but wouldn't be too upset if someone like Warrington threw huge money at him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Ellis will be 32 next year, and I expect will want a three year deal. No thank you.
But I suppose he would fit in well at Wire or Leeds.'"
Yeah he's not well versed enough in injuring the opposition to fit in Wigan. Better off at a team that passes the ball every now and again.
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| It would be good to see Ellis back in a Leeds shirt once more as he was a top notch key player for us. However as others have stated his best years are behind him and IMO in the 4 nations he looked slower and a shadow of his former self.
I am morgan freeman ....no sorry... I am more than happy with the way Delaney has settled into the 2nd row where his performances and work rate are on a heroic JJB scale. These two plus Ablett are currently the best rowers in the SL and with Clarkson and Hauraki we have good cover.
If we could be sure that Ellis would offer us a couple of years of his previous younger man form or if he would move up to prop the way Morley did and retain the same workload then it is worth consideration as Leuluai is set to retire and JP cannot go on forever at the same level. Morley returned to SL when he was 28ish but Ellis will be 31 this year. I guess the NRL has taken its toll and last season he had an ankle injury which restricted his appearances.
So on balance it would depend on his fitness and willingness to move up to prop and of course the cost.
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| 32, expensive, past his best, lots of miles on the clock, a bit injury prone, and plays in a position we have a lot of depth and a few youngsters with great potential. I'd only consider signing him if we let Huraki go.
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| having spoken to his old man early indications are "he'd like to go back to you lot" that is the response i got. and it was his dad who told me he was going to the NRL long before it became common knowledge.
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| Has everyone forgotten who ellis is managed by????????
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"He will end up at Warrington - they will be able to get him under the cap
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We are Warrington Wolves we take what we want.
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| I would like to see him play for us again, as always I will trust GH to sort the finer details.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It certainy will. This was the very reason why I questioned the new contract for Delaney the other week. I said at the time, I would be very pished if we missed out on a possible return fort Ellis by giving this new contract.'"
Why would Delaney stop him coming back?
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"We are Warrington Wolves we take what we want.'"
Everything barring a superleague title?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Why would Delaney stop him coming back?'"
Seriously. You can't work that one out? unless you missed the "if"?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"icon_confused.gif: Seriously. You can't work that one out? unless you missed the "if"?'"
To be honest no, we have at least 6 full time 2nd rowers on the books, Delaney has been a very good player for us and his contract was well deserved.
To not retain Delaney just in case a 32 year old Ellis came back to Leeds 12 months later (before he even announced he was coming back to SL) doesn't hold much water for mine.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"To be honest no, we have at least 6 full time 2nd rowers on the books, Delaney has been a very good player for us and his contract was well deserved.
To not retain Delaney just in case a 32 year old Ellis came back to Leeds 12 months later (before he even announced he was coming back to SL) doesn't hold much water for mine.'"
I am not sure what you are trying to argue, or whether you are trying to be funny or something.
Just to be clear.
Delaney is an overseas player, an overseas player who does a job but is no great shakes. We could easily replace with British and IMO own club. However, that really isn't the point. The point was I hope we don't miss out on getting Ellis returned because of that new contract. That was in relation to a 3 year deal, thinking Ellis might return season after next. The fact that he is now returning ealier highlights it even more.
Ellis is a million times better than Delaney. So the point was I hope by throwing money at Delaney that we do not miss out. Get both great.
Just to make the mathmatics easier for you. If you have £10 and can only spend that amount full stop, and you see two proucts that you want, one at £7 and another at £7. If you already spend on the first product then you can not get that second one can you?
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| I'm not sure Ellis is a "Million miles" better than Brett.
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| I am. But at 32 i'm happy to let warrington pay big money, however they choose to pay it
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