I thought it was lupton no15!!

Danny hasnt reproduced the form of the 2004 season and until he does he will always be regarded as underachieving

That's why I put (was it?) in brackets

2004 he was nothing more then a support player, he's now a lot more complete & better player

My appologies. I didnt make it clear that the above statement was not my oppinon. I agree with you but not everyone can see that far

I thought he got caught in possession a few times too many

Lets not forget it was his 1st match and he's also been carrying a knock in pre-season.
He played a key role in both of smithy's trys and whilst he wasn't a 100% on top form he still did well imo and the couple of dropped balls in the first half did come from less than accurate passes.

Leon Pryce a far better player in my opinion. A class act is pryce Maguire a very fit player with tremendous supporting ability thats about it.

Disagree on the "just a supporting player" comment now as he has added a lot to his game. He has had to do this because he has lost a hell of a lot of pace after his leg injuries. Most of the tries he scores now are self made although he is still a very good support player and he creates a lot now compared to 4 or 5 years ago. IMO though he is a better SH than a SO and I have said this for a couple of seasons now.

Agree on Pryce being the better SO out of the 2 though (enter numerous Leeds fans saying he hasnt been seen since week 2 of the Play Offs

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in fairness i think pyrce is a very good player, however the above statement is also very true. if he wants to be a great player (or even just better then mcguire) then going missing at the business end of the year is not helping

On balance it could be argued that Pryce is just as limited.

a reasonable long pass and can take advantage of the quick play the ball style..jumping in regular at the AHB..oh and the ability to go missing for 3/4 of the game.

Sinfield had to take over Mcguires role in the grand final before we looked effective.

That was the catalyst to Mcguire doing what he does best and a matchwinning performance. Not to say thats a bad thing though.

I think that's somewhere close to hitting the nail. McGuire has strengths and weaknesses, much like any other player. He's perhaps not the greatest organiser of a team, but take that responsibility off him and let him carry the ball, look for gaps and passes near the line and he's one of the more dangerous players in this league. I think he was a better player the last 2 years than he was in 2004. Far more strings to his bow, so to speak.

Whilst I don't disagree with what people are saying about McGuire's organisational abilities he's actually far better than people realise. Nobody appears to have mentioned that he created 2 of our tries on Friday.

Is he better than Leon? I don't know. He certainly was a million miles ahead of him last October.

See above!!

My bad. Kudos to you.

I agree, he isn't anything like as one-dimensional as some people think. He is also a good creative player, and makes a lot of opportunities for players around him. What he doesn't do as well(not to say he doesn't do it at all) is give overall structure and shape to the side in the way that someone like Sinfield does. That is certainly no criticism, as Sinfield doesn't offer what McGuire does attacking the line either. I think that's why Leeds are at their best with Sinfield and Diskin/(or probably Buderus) controlling the shape and tempo and McGuire and Burrow being left to do what they do best, which is find gaps and exploit them. They can do the other, more pragmatic stuff, but others do it better, and they're both better when they don't have to. IMO.

Excellent analysis my boy.

Thanks Pops.

McGuire has been one of or top 5 players every year since 2003 IMO and I have no idea why he gets stick on here.

I dont understand why he gets so much stick either scored trys in 3 grand finals got us to the challenge cup final with his last minute try also.

And is very consistent,i think true Leeds fans appreciate a good player and most on here are blinkered.

To be fair he only gets stick from opposition fans and idiots.

You are Danny McGuire and I claim my £5.
Although I do agree with what you are saying Danny

Yup, there's plenty of Rhino supporting idiots floating around with their head up their ar*e.

wouldn't swop for any other stand off in super league.he fits into our style of play perfectly. top player.
and those who don't rate him should put there medals up against his