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| Yes, i know its a bit early, but interested in others thoughts.
James Bentley - Is improving and is a BA player - Keep 2 years
Matt Frawley - Too inconsistent, expernsive and OQ space - Let go
Morgan Gannon - Assuming concussion issues resolved - Keep 2 years
Mickael Goudemand - Cant even get in when we have injuries. Im afraid out of his depth - Let go
Tom Holroyd - Assuming he stays fit - Keep 2 years
Sam Lisone - Too inconsistent, expensive and OQ space - Let go
James McDonnell - Good player. Utility value and committed - Keep 2 years
Paul Momirovski - Havent seen the best of him yet. Was never a starter in NRL and a season + pre-season will help hugely - Keep 2 years
Tom Nicholson-Watton - Good young player - Keep 3 years
Mikołaj Oledzki - Inconsistent but injuries have taken their toll this season - Keep 3 years
Leon Ruan - Works hard. Young. Hungry - Keep 2 years
Justin Sangare - The French Chris Feather - Let go im afraid, unless he has a storming start of 2025. A real shame.
Of course a proper Brad Arthur pre-season may be the making or breaking of many.
None of the above are NRL standard, but then again Lewis Dodd somehow got a deal, so who knows!
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| Most companies work on performance indicators (KPII) based on this season ever player over 21 should be put on notice that their contracts may be terminated do to lack of performance.
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| That's not the way it works in sport. But one positive thing Smith showed was that it is possible to move on players under contract. The problem was the ones he brought in....
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| Momo, Frawley, Sangare and Goudemand need to be forced out.
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| Tell them now they will not be renewed and that they are free to leave if they can find a deal elsewhere,
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| Arthur likes Frawley, who has been pretty effective (given the circumstances) since Smith's exit.
We can't bin everyone, and won't, despite what gets posted here and on social media.
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| Frawley is a problem if Leeds want to improve. His kicking game is horrific.
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| His kicking game is poor when the forwards are getting bullied. He's a different player when our tails are up, and serves as a good foil for Croft, who also goes missing when the pack is getting bested. We can't get rid of everyone in one go.
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| Croft at least attempts to stand up when we are getting rolled. Frawley is always anonymous. We won't win trophies with him in the team, he simply is not good enough.
We can't get rid of everyone in one go but him and Momorovski need to be at the top of the list.
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| Definitely Mom , he has pace and size and good hands , but shows nothing , pushed off tackles like Mickey Lewis rubbish .He would be first for me followed by a few more.
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| Whilst I'm not defending Frawley's signing, the market for available HBs at the time was scarce, it was between him or Clune, who has also been very average for Giants.
Momorovski is a different matter altogether tho. Quality outside backs are plentiful in NRL and there's just no excuse for this bit of recruitment. Another dreadful call Gary.
Let's hope IB makes better decisions
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| Arthur wouldn't have made Frawley captain if he didn't rate him. Momirovski's recent form hasn't been good at all, but he's another that has played a lot better than his last game.
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| Momirosvki won't be the first or last overseas signing to have a poor first year, we have had a few that have kicked on after a slow start.
I remember Scott Donald getting a lot of flack for example. Moving to the other side of the world is not always plain sailing, I know from experience.
However I have a hunch Mom might go home in the off season, and maybe the club know this which is why we are looking at another outside back.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Arthur wouldn't have made Frawley captain if he didn't rate him. Momirovski's recent form hasn't been good at all, but he's another that has played a lot better than his last game.'"
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Arthur wouldn't have made Frawley captain if he didn't rate him. Momirovski's recent form hasn't been good at all, but he's another that has played a lot better than his last game.'"
Momirovski, no pace, nor physicality not capable at competing at the highest level of rugby. If he played several seasons for us it wouldn’t change things. As for frawley Blake Austin in the dying embers of his career is a superior player than frawley. Both frawley and Momirovski are a factor in cementing our middle table status. Look at the league table and compare our position with Salford and then contemplate we robbed them off two of the teams star players. Then look wher we are, that’s how far we have sunk. Not forgetting we have a temporary coach.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Momirovski, no pace, nor physicality not capable at competing at the highest level of rugby. If he played several seasons for us it wouldn’t change things. As for frawley Blake Austin in the dying embers of his career is a superior player than frawley. Both frawley and Momirovski are a factor in cementing our middle table status. Look at the league table and compare our position with Salford and then contemplate we robbed them off two of the teams star players. Then look wher we are, that’s how far we have sunk. Not forgetting we have a temporary coach.'"
Momirosvki played over 40 games in 2 years for Penrith and Sydney roosters, he’s clearly capable of competing at the highest level. Wether he works out for us we’ll have to see.
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| Quote ="christopher"Momirosvki played over 40 games in 2 years for Penrith and Sydney roosters, he’s clearly capable of competing at the highest level. Wether he works out for us we’ll have to see.'"
He has played for big clubs and his pass to Fusitua a few weeks ago showed he has some talent. However, he has largely been very poor considering that pedigree. He turned up unfit after going on a stag do or whatever Smith let him get away with.
He has picked up a bit under Arthur, but last week he was an awful again in the first half.
Season on the line , 4 minutes in, Wigan kick to the corner , Marshall taps the ball back inside to Wardle. Momirovski does not run back to cover Wardle until he gets the ball, by which time it’s too late. His attitude and lack of intensity compared with Wigan was chalk and cheese.
I reckon he has had the hard word from Arthur. Would not surprise me to see Roberts picked tomorrow.
I’m going to KR and will not be bothered if never see him again in a Leeds shirt. If he stays for next year he needs to get a hard long pre-season in the UK . I doubt he will fancy it
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"He has played for big clubs and his pass to Fusitua a few weeks ago showed he has some talent. However, he has largely been very poor considering that pedigree. He turned up unfit after going on a stag do or whatever Smith let him get away with.
He has picked up a bit under Arthur, but last week he was an awful again in the first half.
Season on the line , 4 minutes in, Wigan kick to the corner , Marshall taps the ball back inside to Wardle. Momirovski does not run back to cover Wardle until he gets the ball, by which time it’s too late. His attitude and lack of intensity compared with Wigan was chalk and cheese.
I reckon he has had the hard word from Arthur. Would not surprise me to see Roberts picked tomorrow.
I’m going to KR and will not be bothered if never see him again in a Leeds shirt. If he stays for next year he needs to get a hard long pre-season in the UK . I doubt he will fancy it'"
I just don't think, in retrospect, he was ever the style of player who would compliment our squad. Have seen him in play well in very good teams in the NRL. Teams who tended to physically dominate and control field position, which allowed him to play to his strengths. At Leeds we've needed big, athletic ball carriers to offset the crippling weakness of our welterweight pack. That's just not his game. If he goes the key thing is to find the player we do need, something we've been very poor at for too many years now.
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| If I was doing a list of pros and cons for Momorovski it would be this; Cons, too slow, not physical enough, drops too much ball, doesn’t fancy the big carries out of defence, misses some really easy tackles, prone to switching off. Pros, got a good leap on him in aerial contests. I think he’s maybe playing the wrong sport.
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| IIRC from his first interview, Mom was originally signed for 2025 and it moved forward 12 month when Nene went AWOL. So it might be someone else who moves on, he gets a full preseason in and hopefully like many other Aussies, kicks on well.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"If I was doing a list of pros and cons for Momorovski it would be this; Cons, too slow, not physical enough, drops too much ball, doesn’t fancy the big carries out of defence, misses some really easy tackles, prone to switching off. Pros, got a good leap on him in aerial contests. I think he’s maybe playing the wrong sport.'"
He also has very nice hair
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I just don't think, in retrospect, he was ever the style of player who would compliment our squad. Have seen him in play well in very good teams in the NRL. Teams who tended to physically dominate and control field position, which allowed him to play to his strengths. At Leeds we've needed big, athletic ball carriers to offset the crippling weakness of our welterweight pack. That's just not his game. If he goes the key thing is to find the player we do need, something we've been very poor at for too many years now.'"
Fair comment, at least Ryan hall will help with ball carrying next season.
I wince every time we send Edgell in to that job, particularly near our own line.
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| Momirovski was the only new signing who didn't have an off-season with the club. He arrived coming off an injury (IIRC?) and had just got married in Australia before settling in Leeds. It's hardly surprising he's in the long list of Aussies who have had disappointing first seasons. Added to that, the guy who signed him left half way through the season and there's been no continuity in wing-centre partnerships on either side of the field all season.
The only outside backs who have come out of the season with any credit are Ash Handley, who has been at the club for years, and a couple of kids. Let's not forget how long it took Handley to establish himself, and many people on here were adamant he would not make it in his first seasons under Brian Mac.
What are Mom's positive attributes? He has good hands, and reads the game well. With a pacey wingman outside him and a destructive backrower on the inside he could be a vital link in a destructive attacking left side. If we are re-building the Murray team, he would be Brad Godden - not flashy, but the ideal winger's centre (sure, he's some way off Godden on this year's form, but the potential is there). He's good under the high ball, has a decent record getting over the try line when he's played, and has a good ability to be in the right place to secure the ball when Leeds are defending their own red zone.
I don't know if he's on the way out or not, but he's surely one that we might expect to be better after an Arthur pre-season.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Momirovski was the only new signing who didn't have an off-season with the club. He arrived coming off an injury (IIRC?) and had just got married in Australia before settling in Leeds. It's hardly surprising he's in the long list of Aussies who have had disappointing first seasons. Added to that, the guy who signed him left half way through the season and there's been no continuity in wing-centre partnerships on either side of the field all season.
The only outside backs who have come out of the season with any credit are Ash Handley, who has been at the club for years, and a couple of kids. Let's not forget how long it took Handley to establish himself, and many people on here were adamant he would not make it in his first seasons under Brian Mac.
What are Mom's positive attributes? He has good hands, and reads the game well. With a pacey wingman outside him and a destructive backrower on the inside he could be a vital link in a destructive attacking left side. If we are re-building the Murray team, he would be Brad Godden - not flashy, but the ideal winger's centre (sure, he's some way off Godden on this year's form, but the potential is there). He's good under the high ball, has a decent record getting over the try line when he's played, and has a good ability to be in the right place to secure the ball when Leeds are defending their own red zone.
I don't know if he's on the way out or not, but he's surely one that we might expect to be better after an Arthur pre-season.'"
We might expect him to be better next year but all the signals coming out of the club suggest he won't be here. Given the surgery (heart surgery) that needs performing on the pack, the fact that Arthur and Blease did not deny an interest in Rapana spoke volumes. Look, Mom is decent player but he is not in anyway Brad Godden. Godden wore the green and gold. Enough said.
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