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| Until the end of 2024. Reading into Blease's statement, it does appear to be Rowley from 2025.
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| Mods, please delete one of these threads. Posting issues continue.
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| Clever from Blease regarding long term. Shows that he is leaving options open.
Arthur may not settle (this is a guy who has just done 10 years at Parra)
Arthur may not fit in
Arthur may have Perth 2027 in mind
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Arthur may doing well and want to stay
I would personally MUCH more have Brad Arthur over Paul Rowley.
Lets hope its not a false dawn!
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| Yes we need a bit of luck with this one. If the team and the crowd can get behind Arthur, we might seduce him into staying - he is avery loyal kind of guy obviously.
Then again there is so much risk with this appointment, we'll just have to see how it pans out. A few good performances and results out of the blocks will make a huge difference.
I'd like to think the playing group will be encouraged by this - BA has pedigree at the highest level, this isn't someone to just fill in or learn on the job so much.
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| I'd imagine (and I'm not in the know, just my opinion). he's here for the rest of the season with an option to extend for next and then back to the NRL 2027 for the expansion team (Perth).
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| Evidently the club still have faith in the squad Smith assembled... Or maybe they just see an experienced appointment as damage limitation with so much of the season left?
Either way, it will be interesting to see if a different direction will get more out of the squad. While I think we all know that they can play better collectively and as individuals, I do have doubts over whether the pack is big/tough/strong/durable/fearsome enough for us to mount a credible challenge this season.
Tomorrow's game will be interesting...
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Evidently the club still have faith in the squad Smith assembled... Or maybe they just see an experienced appointment as damage limitation with so much of the season left?
Either way, it will be interesting to see if a different direction will get more out of the squad. While I think we all know that they can play better collectively and as individuals, I do have doubts over whether the pack is big/tough/strong/durable/fearsome enough for us to mount a credible challenge this season.
Tomorrow's game will be interesting...'"
It will be interesting. Two factors they should want to put right Saturday’s performance and BA will be in attendance!
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| What happens with recruitment for next season under this arrangement?
Blease will no doubt make the calls, but say BA goes back in a few months, the next coach will have no say in the 2025 roster, potentially stirring up more issues if he wants to bring his own people in.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"What happens with recruitment for next season under this arrangement?
Blease will no doubt make the calls, but say BA goes back in a few months, the next coach will have no say in the 2025 roster, potentially stirring up more issues if he wants to bring his own people in.'"
Depends, please may have actually sorted the coach out for next year, they may be in contact regarding recruitment
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| Yes, it's interesting to see how this effects strategy on recruitment.. it's not ideal from that point.
Blease without putting it in black and white, pretty much confirms Rowley is also a major target but wont leave Salford mid season. I think BA wants 2 years Leeds want longer, it's a trial for both parties, BA may settle well and then happy to sign up for 3 years.. I think they also wanted Rowley if BA won't commit to more that 2 years.
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| Blease press conference was interesting... they're still speaking to other coaches, BA says some players want to come over with him from NRL, Blease is saying he will look at that but cap space is tight for next year (well done Rohan ) so chances of 3 or 4 changes for next year are slim to none unless Blease works some magic.. BA saying he's happy to stay longer, and that is not ruled out at all.. as posted above i do think BA only wants 2 years max from the sounds of it but lets see
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| Pretty impressed with Blease, alot more direct and clear. Sounds professional and seems to do his research.
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| Extremely interesting situation, if the new coach manages to get some decent performances from the team. It begs the question was it smith’s fault the team was poor or maybe the players didn’t rate smith or want to play for him.
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| I don't get how we can be so tight on the cap.
Fusitua / Donaldson and likely Roberts and Martin leaving.
Hall incoming who will Count as academy trained? New Marquee slot available etc
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"I don't get how we can be so tight on the cap.
Fusitua / Donaldson and likely Roberts and Martin leaving.
Hall incoming who will Count as academy trained? New Marquee slot available etc'"
Hmmm.. hard to work out isn't it..
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"I don't get how we can be so tight on the cap.
Fusitua / Donaldson and likely Roberts and Martin leaving.
Hall incoming who will Count as academy trained? New Marquee slot available etc'"
Just because Hall is academy trained it doesn’t mean we are getting to pay any less on the cap. If he was on a marquee wage we could, but he won't be so doesn’t meant too much. But agree on the general point. Don’t forget Myler and Olpherts also departed without being replaced and Johnson is likely to go.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Blease press conference was interesting... they're still speaking to other coaches, BA says some players want to come over with him from NRL, Blease is saying he will look at that but cap space is tight for next year (well done Rohan
) so chances of 3 or 4 changes for next year are slim to none unless Blease works some magic.. BA saying he's happy to stay longer, and that is not ruled out at all.. as posted above i do think BA only wants 2 years max from the sounds of it but lets see'"
Not sure you can put all the blame on Smith for cap issues, GH will have done a lot of the dealings with wages and cap management
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| Quote ="christopher"Not sure you can put all the blame on Smith for cap issues, GH will have done a lot of the dealings with wages and cap management'"
For Goodness sake Chris , you have supported him long enough
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"For Goodness sake Chris , you have supported him long enough'"
What did i say that was incorrect?
Smith often said he left that to the agents and Hetherington.
Blame absolutely everything on Smith if it makes you feel better.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Blease press conference was interesting... they're still speaking to other coaches, BA says some players want to come over with him from NRL, Blease is saying he will look at that but cap space is tight for next year (well done Rohan
) so chances of 3 or 4 changes for next year are slim to none unless Blease works some magic.. BA saying he's happy to stay longer, and that is not ruled out at all.. as posted above i do think BA only wants 2 years max from the sounds of it but lets see'"
Thought Chev Walker's presser was pretty revealing. Did not sound like a coach who has too much confidence in his future at Leeds beyond this season. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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| I think this is a good move, have watched a bit of stuff on Arthur on YouTube and like what I see.
Whether it was GH, Smith or both doing recruiting, Blease knows what we need and I think he will be all over it, which is what we need. Regardless of who is coach next year , the key is signing a few key high quality players.
Blease says Arthur is a good man manager and that will be important.
I spent a little bit of time recently with first team players, and it was fairly short, I won’t say anything about the circumstances but was struck at what I perceived to be a real lack of self confidence in some. We desperately need some leaders, Arthur can’t fix that in 11 games but I believe he has some real scope to help get some of the squad to step up.
I was also struck that Martin is held in high regard by the players and think he will be a real loss if he goes.
In any event I think Arthur will give them real direction and set clear expectations.
We’ve got a tough run in , I think The season could have gone south rapidly from here but think Arthur will make a difference, not saying we will make the playoffs and we could lose
Plenty but I think his appointment is a real step forward.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Thought Chev Walker's presser was pretty revealing. Did not sound like a coach who has too much confidence in his future at Leeds beyond this season. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.'"
Quite right too the rest of the coaching team should be the selections of the head coach! If Arthur stays on its up to them to impress him. They are getting a shot which might not have been available if another coach had come in now on three year contract.
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| Even if Arthur doesn't stay beyond this season part of his remit should be to appraise the entire coaching setup, and to bring in or recommend people and positions to move the club forward. Not only have we got the head coach wrong for years, but its seemed as if reserve and assistant coach picks have been more about giving a job to former players and mates than treating them as an integrated part of the development pathway to the first team.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Even if Arthur doesn't stay beyond this season part of his remit should be to appraise the entire coaching setup, and to bring in or recommend people and positions to move the club forward. Not only have we got the head coach wrong for years, but its seemed as if reserve and assistant coach picks have been more about giving a job to former players and mates than treating them as an integrated part of the development pathway to the first team.'"
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Even if Arthur doesn't stay beyond this season part of his remit should be to appraise the entire coaching setup, and to bring in or recommend people and positions to move the club forward. Not only have we got the head coach wrong for years, but its seemed as if reserve and assistant coach picks have been more about giving a job to former players and mates than treating them as an integrated part of the development pathway to the first team.'"
Isn't that Blease's job though? I get what you're saying and i do agree.. my concern is that BA could go at season end and Rowley could come in and what his own ideas implementing with regards to coaching set up..
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