What can you say - when it mattered it showed why Hull let him go!!

Every Catalan player was offside and they never bothered checking it. But we have been crap for months and did not deserve to win.

Your idol needs to wash his mouth out!

Disgusting language at the end there.

Except Hull didn't let him go did they.

Had a poor season overall but still got his best years ahead of him, unlike the old feller McGuire who threw the game away with the needless final penalty who has given us two great games this year which seems to be all he has in the tank. Leeds need to let him go for sure.

Worlds best winger also had a mare too, Briscoe has been a shambles of a signing too, in fact when did we last make a good signing!

I agree he isn't the player he was but he isn't the only one!! sadly your blinkers only see one player - seriously how is his mistake any more influential that the 2 Ryan Hall made?

You can't say that GI knows best!!

We sorely missed Kirke.

I didn't think it was the best pass in the world from sinfield TBH.

Another pi55ing contest begins...

You may be being tongue in cheek, but we got busted through the middle to many times this evening, Kirke for his faults usually works the middle well

My god man you can not be serious..... you think Kirke would have made the difference for the ten minutes he normally spends on the field? Do you remember his performance at Warrington? For some reason that one sticks in my mind

Obviously yes, tongue in cheek but we were busted through the middle alot and sutcliffe was caught out big time when anderson strolled through for his try.Not going to go as far as saying Kirke would have made the difference but i personally would have gone singleton over Suttcliffe on the bench.

Im not saying he would have made a difference, our problems tonight were bigger than something that a bit player could do anything about
Regarding warrington game yes kirke had some share of the blame for 2 of the tries but they were never entirely his fault. For one has was on his way back to the line (something we see many times a game from other forwards) and some goes past him. What causes the try isnt this, its the fact that there is noone standing at A defenders position. Could Kirke have done better? Hell yes, was it his fault? Not in my opinion

Anyway, tonights not about Kirke was managed to lose without his 'contribution'

Aiton and sutcliffe on the bench is too lightweight for me.

Next season, will the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow, Peacock and Leuluai be...

1) More effective?
2) Less effective?
3) About the same?

If the answer isn't 1) above, next season is going to be very interesting indeed.

I wouldnt rule out a couple retiring. Peackock and Leuluai are old, and have a full set of medals, what more is there to motivate? Same could go for Sinny. Not saying it will happen, but it must be a reasonable possibility

Where would that leave Leeds? It's well publicised that a couple (at least) of Leeds players are paid under their market value for the sake of team spirit, but surely that means there's not the money in the pot for like for like replacements when they do hang up the boots?

Given that it's too late now to go out and sign replacements for the 2015 season I don't really think the types of people the likes of Sinfield and Peacock are will leave the club in the lurch by retiring with immediate effect.

Do you really think they'd want that performance to be their last game?

Also Peacock has been given a testimonial for next year, wouldn't really work if he retires.

Not saying it improves us, just it could happen. It could lead to the speeding up of the replacement of unreplacables. Sinfield and Peacock could orobably do another 2 seasons, wheather they should is another matter. Only they can answer that really, they may decide that they can do themselves justice.

That would leave leeds in a poor place for next season, but the transition needs to happen at some point and the likes of sutcliffe and singleton need to be given the responsibility, if they are seen as the next big things

Leuluai is a distinct possibility. Think the other two will do one more year at least. Up until today, I thought this squad could probably soldier on for 2 more seasons and still be a good shout for silverware. The result today against ordinary opposition putting in an average performance in a fixture that really mattered does make me wonder if this Leeds team has finally reached the end of it's journey and is no longer fit for the purpose? Today's ordinary opposition would have won in a canter with a halfback pairing of Carney and Dureau.

Peacock has already announced his retirement at the end of 2015.
I don't think any other major players will retire at the same time. Though it's going to be a difficult few years to replace Peacock, Leuluai, McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield & JJB over the next 3 or 4 years.

I felt the same. I felt that the poor games around and since the cup final were lesdons learned from last seaon with tired legs being rested to leave enough in the tank for a shot at the title. I didnt think itd be a cake walk tonight, but we should have had enough to win with a little to spare.

Peacock did 80 tonight didnt he. If last season is his last we need to get a quality 40 mins a week from him, and not bigger minutes but lower quality. Singleton needs to step up, but also needs to get trusted with the shirt.

It wouldnt be the first time someone decided to move on in the gap between seasons. At 34 with a full set of medals I could understand sinfield calling it a day, and go out at the top

In terms of the title, this leeds team is done for the foreseable, IMO.

They may be able to get another CC win next season (at best) but that's it. Leeds have one of the best backlines in the league, yet they are the lowest points scorers in the top 6. If you aint scoring, it nearly always comes down to the halves. Sinfield and mcguire aren't threats with ball in hand, so defences can focus on the outside runners and then scramble if they decide to take on the defence because they aint getting through.

Haven't seen a Leeds team look quite so impotent in attack for a long time.

I don't see any improvement in them next season. This time next year sh*t will be hitting the fan. Mcdermott will be getting moved on, peacock and leuluai will be retiring and our halves will be getting older and slower by the day.